I've decised to read the Bible..again.

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Re: I've decised to read the Bible..again.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed May 16, 2012 11:12 am

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Gawdzilla wrote:The Egyptians kept records as to how many cats were sacrificed to Bast each day. Not noticing tens of thousands of foreign workers for four centuries is the fatal flaw in this bullshit.
Well, the whole talking-snake-rib-woman thing doesn't strike me as the tightest science either.
I was speaking specifically about Exodus.
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Post by Thumpalumpacus » Wed May 16, 2012 6:24 pm

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Gawdzilla wrote:The Egyptians kept records as to how many cats were sacrificed to Bast each day. Not noticing tens of thousands of foreign workers for four centuries is the fatal flaw in this bullshit.
Well, the whole talking-snake-rib-woman thing doesn't strike me as the tightest science either.
I was speaking specifically about Exodus.
Yeah, I saw that, just throwing my two cents' worth in, as I'm wont to do on occasion.
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Re: I've decised to read the Bible..again.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed May 16, 2012 6:34 pm

Thumpalumpacus wrote:
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Gawdzilla wrote:The Egyptians kept records as to how many cats were sacrificed to Bast each day. Not noticing tens of thousands of foreign workers for four centuries is the fatal flaw in this bullshit.
Well, the whole talking-snake-rib-woman thing doesn't strike me as the tightest science either.
I was speaking specifically about Exodus.
Yeah, I saw that, just throwing my two cents' worth in, as I'm wont to do on occasion.
Cool, just making sure I didn't have to kill you.

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Post by Animavore » Wed May 16, 2012 6:42 pm

There is no evidence of the Exodus. See The Bible Unearthed [Finklestein, Silberman). Exodus goes into some detail about where the Jews camped along their wanderings. Archaeologists have searched these places with a fine comb and found no evidence of settlements anywhere. These guys can pick out a small hunter-gatherer tribe with not much difficulty let alone large groups.
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Post by Jesus_of_Nazareth » Thu May 17, 2012 9:23 am

I think reading the Bible (so you can argue over it) is a complete waste of time - all the Woo Peddlers will say is that you have not understood it because you have not let Jesus into your heart (or the Tooth Fairy or Whatever).....or some such bollocks. Basically the Bible is used to support whatever view people have - whether the views have come from own reflection or been sold to them by others.

To argue against religion (with a beleiver) via the Bible is like arguing that the Austin Allegro is not the worlds greatest car - with a member of the Austin Allegro owners Club, using a copy of the Allegro handbook supplemented only by their Owners Magazine.

But the Bible is useful in making a religion look stupid by pointing out the nonsense - and then laughing at it / the beleivers, but not for serious debate.
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Post by Hermit » Thu May 17, 2012 9:45 am

Jesus_of_Nazareth wrote:I think reading the Bible (so you can argue over it) is a complete waste of time - all the Woo Peddlers will say is that you have not understood it because you have not let Jesus into your heart (or the Tooth Fairy or Whatever).....or some such bollocks. Basically the Bible is used to support whatever view people have - whether the views have come from own reflection or been sold to them by others.

To argue against religion (with a beleiver) via the Bible is like arguing that the Austin Allegro is not the worlds greatest car - with a member of the Austin Allegro owners Club, using a copy of the Allegro handbook supplemented only by their Owners Magazine.

But the Bible is useful in making a religion look stupid by pointing out the nonsense - and then laughing at it / the beleivers, but not for serious debate.
You are most unlikely to convince a "true believer" by pointing to the contradictions and the sheer nonsense the bible contains, but the majority of christians are a not "true believers". Most of them don't even go to mass or other church services, but still believe in the existence of the biblical god because that is the kind of environment they grew up in, and they are the ones who will listen, and perhaps change their minds about the existence of a god as described in the bible.
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Post by Rum » Thu May 17, 2012 9:49 am

Hermit wrote:
Jesus_of_Nazareth wrote:I think reading the Bible (so you can argue over it) is a complete waste of time - all the Woo Peddlers will say is that you have not understood it because you have not let Jesus into your heart (or the Tooth Fairy or Whatever).....or some such bollocks. Basically the Bible is used to support whatever view people have - whether the views have come from own reflection or been sold to them by others.

To argue against religion (with a beleiver) via the Bible is like arguing that the Austin Allegro is not the worlds greatest car - with a member of the Austin Allegro owners Club, using a copy of the Allegro handbook supplemented only by their Owners Magazine.

But the Bible is useful in making a religion look stupid by pointing out the nonsense - and then laughing at it / the beleivers, but not for serious debate.
You are most unlikely to convince a "true believer" by pointing to the contradictions and the sheer nonsense the bible contains, but the majority of christians are a not "true believers". Most of them don't even go to mass or other church services, but still believe in the existence of the biblical god because that is the kind of environment they grew up in, and they are the ones who will listen, and perhaps change their minds about the existence of a god as described in the bible.
I have often thought this. The truly committed are close to qualifying for being committed! The majority of vague believers are either lazy thinkers, prefer their mental comfort zone to remain despite nagging thoughts about it or have just 'always been' of whatever denomination they were born into. My partner was brought up a Catholic, has lapsed, but finds it too troubling to take it on to the next stage. I don't push it.

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Post by Atheist-Lite » Thu May 17, 2012 10:16 am

Good for toilet paper but nothing else. :coffee:
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Post by Hermit » Thu May 17, 2012 10:20 am

Crumple wrote:Good for toilet paper but nothing else. :coffee:
Not so. I can think of better material for toilet paper. Toilet paper, for example.
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Re: I've decised to read the Bible..again.

Post by Svartalf » Thu May 17, 2012 10:48 am

Yeah, paper too thin, you have to use three leaves at a time if you don't want to get shit all over your hands, and too slick, doesn't do a proper job. even newsprint is fitter for that use.
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Post by Thinking Aloud » Thu May 17, 2012 10:53 am

Also, because it's usually quite shiny and tough (comparatively speaking), it will tend to stick to the sides of the pipes rather than shred and disintegrate, which could lead to blockages. :mod:

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Post by Rum » Thu May 17, 2012 10:54 am

Someone should write a book - the Physics of Shitting.

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Re: I've decised to read the Bible..again.

Post by Atheist-Lite » Thu May 17, 2012 11:03 am

Crumple, then uncrumple and soak in water overnight - dry out and the paper is A1 toilet ready. A three day process. :tup:
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Post by Rum » Fri May 18, 2012 8:14 am

Got as far as Isaiah now. Some weird stuff going on in there I tell you!

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Re: I've decised to read the Bible..again.

Post by Atheist-Lite » Fri May 18, 2012 8:30 am

Rum wrote:Got as far as Isaiah now. Some weird stuff going on in there I tell you!
You speed reading it? :smoke:
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