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Post by Schneibster » Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:07 am

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andrewclunn wrote:New plan for Middle Eastern peace, give every single woman a pistol.
Better yet a full-auto 12 gauge!

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Post by Schneibster » Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:11 am

maiforpeace wrote:I need to find out what women's movements provide this badly needed outside support...
The ones that get shot at a lot. :ddpan:

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Post by Schneibster » Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:16 am

Feck wrote:Considering that WOMEN do all the cooking ...and kitchens have knives and boiling water !... and men sleep .... lack of weapons is not the problem !
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Post by charlou » Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:24 am

Cormac wrote:But this kind of thing surely smacks of petty village jealousies and rivalries doesn't it? It is the Salem Witch Trial type revenge and spitefulness thing.
Your comment brings to mind the widows who are accused of some trumped up bullshit and murdered by the villagers so the family can profit by getting her possessions .. livestock, household stuff, etc. I read about this on the net a while back and tried to google it today, but I couldn't narrow the search down to the articles I'd read before.
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Post by charlou » Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:27 am

Is there a Facebook page promoting the emancipation of women in Islamic hellholes?
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Here's an inconvenient question:

So, everybody's all for getting out of Afghanistan right away, huh?
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Post by Hermit » Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:29 am

Schneibster wrote:Here's an inconvenient question:

So, everybody's all for getting out of Afghanistan right away, huh?
[devil's advocacy] May as well. What exactly has been achieved in Afghanistan? Here are some inconvenient facts: The Taliban presence is stronger than ever. The nation has become a magnet for Al Qaeda terrorists. The puppet government is ineffective. Isn't ten years of failure enough? Or are you expecting some sort of miracle? [/devil's advocacy]
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Post by Schneibster » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:04 am

The "puppet government" just kicked the livin' shit outta Pakistan. "We see no reason to bother negotiating with the Taliban, we'll just talk to their Pakistani masters." In public, no questions, no doubts, no horseshit. Pakistan tried to bluff and got caught. They're still whining, too.
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Post by maiforpeace » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:05 am

Schneibster wrote:
maiforpeace wrote:I need to find out what women's movements provide this badly needed outside support...
The ones that get shot at a lot. :ddpan:

I support the idea but don't be naive about how big a challenge it is.
Don't worry Schneibster, I promise to keep my eyes open. ;)

I'm under no illusions how big the challenge is.

You might find Ayaan Hirsi Ali's response to me in this video interesting and on topic. (ignore me as much as possible...since then I've been to Toastmasters and have lost 30 lbs :oops: :oops: :oops: )

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It's good to know there's folks ready to fight the long fight.
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Post by Hermit » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:28 am

Schneibster wrote:The "puppet government" just kicked the livin' shit outta Pakistan. "We see no reason to bother negotiating with the Taliban, we'll just talk to their Pakistani masters." In public, no questions, no doubts, no horseshit. Pakistan tried to bluff and got caught. They're still whining, too.
Meanwhile, the US liberators are as successful in winning the hearts and minds of the Afghani population as they were in winning the Vietnamese a few decades earlier.
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Post by Schneibster » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:30 am

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Post by Hermit » Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:05 am

Inconvenient answer, I know. The truth is that I am not in favour of the US getting out of either Afghanistan or Iran. It broke them. It owns them. I just that don't see how the US administration can fix the problem. It's record is not so good lately. I think the last success - and it was a resounding one - was the Marshall Plan. It missed out on doing the same in Afghanistan by totally ignoring Charley Wilson's advice after he engineered the ignominious retreat of the Soviet military a few decades ago.
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Re: Fucking savages

Post by Svartalf » Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:06 am

Schneibster wrote:Here's an inconvenient question:

So, everybody's all for getting out of Afghanistan right away, huh?
Short of conducting a massive deculturation campaign over the next 50 years, which means ousting the elites and replacing them; and sending a million more troops to make the occupation something proper, there's nothing to do, so, yeah.
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