Dawkins on Alien Rubbish

[Jason]

Nah, I'm in the mood to tear someone apart. There are no easier targets than people who think philosophy is bullshit.

So, you like being laughed at? Fine, meet my dog.

Sorry, my dog just pissed all over the floor.

Being laughed at by fools never bothered me.

[Bella Fortuna]

Yes, by all means let's make assumptions without having the full story, especially when it plays into our pet biases.

[Exi5tentialist]

And as this:

Sartre = Philosopher

In 'Zilla's mind philosophy = bullshit

Ergo anything Sartre wrote is bullshit.

Simple.

is a philosophy, therefore it is bullshit.

Therefore Zilla's aim is to talk bullshit. But we know that is his only contribution to this Forum anyway.

[Exi5tentialist]

Yes, by all means let's make assumptions without having the full story, especially when it plays into our pet biases.

Oh Bella don't you start. We won't get the full story until Richard Dawkins has had 20 years psychoanalysis starting with his potty training. Get real, FFS.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Nah, I'm in the mood to tear someone apart. There are no easier targets than people who think philosophy is bullshit.

So, you like being laughed at? Fine, meet my dog.

Sorry, my dog just pissed all over the floor.

Being laughed at by fools never bothered me.

You shouldn't talk about your family that way.

[Clinton Huxley]

So either we make suppositions about what Dawkins meant by the word "alien rubbish" (referring to what muslim schools teach), or we must disregard it completely and pretend it doesn't say anything, because there are 4 conflicting definitions of the adjective "alien" and none of us can ask him which one he meant it to be. And even if we could ask him, we couldn't know if he was lying anyway, or if he was deluding himself, which I think he has a tendency to do.

He may well have meant it they way you've interpreted it. I don't know and neither do you. Sounds like even if he denied he meant it the way you've interpeted, you'd assume he was lying anyway.

So there's really not much point wasting breath on it, really

[Gawdzilla Sama]

is a philosophy, therefore it is bullshit.

Therefore Zilla's aim is to talk bullshit. But we know that is his only contribution to this Forum anyway.

Yep, and I love it that way, I don't have maintain a pompous front like SOME PEOPLE.

[Bella Fortuna]

Yes, by all means let's make assumptions without having the full story, especially when it plays into our pet biases.

Oh Bella don't you start. We won't get the full story until Richard Dawkins has had 20 years psychoanalysis starting with his potty training. Get real, FFS.

“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” --Harlan Ellison

[Exi5tentialist]

So either we make suppositions about what Dawkins meant by the word "alien rubbish" (referring to what muslim schools teach), or we must disregard it completely and pretend it doesn't say anything, because there are 4 conflicting definitions of the adjective "alien" and none of us can ask him which one he meant it to be. And even if we could ask him, we couldn't know if he was lying anyway, or if he was deluding himself, which I think he has a tendency to do.

He may well have meant it they way you've interpreted it. I don't know and neither do you. Sounds like even if he denied he meant it the way you've interpeted, you'd assume he was lying anyway.

So there's really not much point wasting breath on it, really

I think the difference between us is that I'm using my intelligence to identify something that is obvious, whereas you're saying we're not supposed to use our brains and must wait to be told by Richard Dawkins what he means by every word, and we're not permitted to question his sincerity.

So thanks but I'll carry on using my brain, you can leave yours in the downstairs toilet if that's what you prefer.

[Clinton Huxley]

So either we make suppositions about what Dawkins meant by the word "alien rubbish" (referring to what muslim schools teach), or we must disregard it completely and pretend it doesn't say anything, because there are 4 conflicting definitions of the adjective "alien" and none of us can ask him which one he meant it to be. And even if we could ask him, we couldn't know if he was lying anyway, or if he was deluding himself, which I think he has a tendency to do.

He may well have meant it they way you've interpreted it. I don't know and neither do you. Sounds like even if he denied he meant it the way you've interpeted, you'd assume he was lying anyway.

So there's really not much point wasting breath on it, really

I think the difference between us is that I'm using my intelligence to identify something that is obvious, whereas you're saying we're not supposed to use our brains and must wait to be told by Richard Dawkins what he means by every word, and we're not permitted to question his sincerity.

So thanks but I'll carry on using my brain, you can leave yours in the downstairs toilet if that's what you prefer.

No, you are using your biases to decide what Dawkin's meant and making an assumption about my motives and being dreary and confrontational about it. Not that I'm bothered, mind.

[Exi5tentialist]

Yes, by all means let's make assumptions without having the full story, especially when it plays into our pet biases.

Oh Bella don't you start. We won't get the full story until Richard Dawkins has had 20 years psychoanalysis starting with his potty training. Get real, FFS.

“You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” --Harlan Ellison

But my opinions are informed. Richard Dawkins is a confirmed islamophobic bigot. He repeatedly describes women wearing the niqab as bin liners. He dehumanises muslims to the status of rubbish. He uses the judeo-christian concept of evil to insult islam. These are facts. Now he has added to his track record by calling the teaching of muslim schools 'alien rubbish', deliberately using the word 'alien' to paint a foreign, non-human picture. Tell me what is not informed about this account of Richard Dawkins's approach to islam before you start quoting fiction writers at me.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

He characterizes the niqab as a bin liner. This is not hard, do try to keep up.

[Exi5tentialist]

No, you are using your biases to decide what Dawkin's meant

I am using what Dawkins has said to decide what he meant. What bias are you using to decide what he didn't mean?

[Exi5tentialist]

He characterizes the niqab as a bin liner. This is not hard, do try to keep up.

Correct, he characterizes the niqab as a bin liner. What do you put in bin liners? Rubbish! Just like your contributions to this debate.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

He characterizes the niqab as a bin liner. This is not hard, do try to keep up.

Correct, he characterizes the niqab as a bin liner. What do you put in bin liners? Rubbish! Just like your contributions to this debate.

Sorry, chuckles, but he's pointing out that the Islamic system puts the women in the bin liners, demonstrating their attitude toward women. You, on the other hand, are lying about Dawkin's position to support your own agenda. In the process you make fauxlosphers look even worse than normal. Thanks for the help with that, I'll save your shite for future use.