How Many Anti-Semitic Americans Are Their?

[JimC]

I can answer that. Historically, it is due to the Jewish religion where Jews think they are so much better than everyone else because they are the chosen ones. I'm sure you can think of why this would ruffle feathers. Internationally, it is because they are overtly racist and stealing land. While other people move forward, Jews as a group in Israel are moving back to the 17th century in terms of racial behavior.

A perfect example of the mixed motives I alluded to earlier...

And just what is incorrect about my summary, Jim? We are talking about Jews as a group here, not as individuals.

You may have noticed I said mixed motives. Sure, people can reasonably give the Israeli government a hard time about their current policies and actions concerning the palestinians.

And sure, the self image of the Jews in Europe, fuelled by their particular brand of delusion (the "chosen people" line) made them separate to other communities around them, which fuelled suspicion. But the subtext of your post, and most of your other posts on the subject, implies that they therefore deserved whatever pogroms and atrocities came their way. In my opinion, your political views on the Middle East are conflated with a pervasive anti-semitic attitude.

[Gawd]

Well Jim, so me being against the KKK also makes me anti-White by your logic.

[Audley Strange]

No Gawd. You saying ALL White people are by default part of the KKK and are happy to enable "treeing coons" is I think the problem. Do NOT generalise the behaviours of Governments and leaders as the beliefs of their people, even if some of those people are happy to take advantage of it. What you are doing is the same shit that annoys me with people equating some of my friends with radical Islamist maniacs or equating me with those in my country who hate the English.

I know many Jewish people who are appalled by the Israeli occupations and their actions. What you seem to be doing, in my opinion, is falling foul to a symptom of historical Anti-Semitism but what I'm trying to establish is a cause, not a contemporary justification.

BTW I am not wholly dismissive of your arguments any more than I am of Seth's. However when you play the same note over and over again it becomes an irritant. Frankly I think both of you are better than that.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

It's the same God.

Only if you don't know the Jews' attitude toward Christianity and Islam. They consider them to be lead by false prophets, and not the true followers of Yhwh. And they'd be happier if the other folks went off and found their own religion, I think.

[Audley Strange]

Understandable at least with the Jesus Cult since every part of it is utterly heretical and blasphemous.

[Gawd]

No Gawd. You saying ALL White people are by default part of the KKK and are happy to enable "treeing coons" is I think the problem. Do NOT generalise the behaviours of Governments and leaders as the beliefs of their people, even if some of those people are happy to take advantage of it. What you are doing is the same shit that annoys me with people equating some of my friends with radical Islamist maniacs or equating me with those in my country who hate the English.

I know many Jewish people who are appalled by the Israeli occupations and their actions. What you seem to be doing, in my opinion, is falling foul to a symptom of historical Anti-Semitism but what I'm trying to establish is a cause, not a contemporary justification.

BTW I am not wholly dismissive of your arguments any more than I am of Seth's. However when you play the same note over and over again it becomes an irritant. Frankly I think both of you are better than that.

AHHHHHHHHHH, governments and leaders represent their people. You make the fallacy of associating Jews as a group when you find it convenient and disassociating them when you want. Doesn't work that way.

[Audley Strange]

No governments and leaders represent themselves. Their people have always been, under any type of Governance, a secondary concern. This has nothing to do with convenience and only the few who are privileged by them, the blind or incredibly stupid would assume otherwise.

None of which goes any measure to answer my question.

[JimC]

Well Jim, so me being against the KKK also makes me anti-White by your logic.

Only if your repeated posts kept giving those damn honkies a hard time...

The logic is you can be anti-KKK without being racist against white folk, but you can also clearly be both. Which of those is a reasonable inference depends on looking at the detail of someone's statements on the topic.

[Gawd]

No governments and leaders represent themselves. Their people have always been, under any type of Governance, a secondary concern. This has nothing to do with convenience and only the few who are privileged by them, the blind or incredibly stupid would assume otherwise.

None of which goes any measure to answer my question.

You are so naive.

[Audley Strange]

No governments and leaders represent themselves. Their people have always been, under any type of Governance, a secondary concern. This has nothing to do with convenience and only the few who are privileged by them, the blind or incredibly stupid would assume otherwise.

None of which goes any measure to answer my question.

You are so naive.

By reducing your argument to insulting me I'll accept your pre-programmed Anti-Semitic nonsense is so embedded as to have to have over-ridden any ability to rational thought in such discussions and that any challenge to that is perceived as a personal threat to your ego.

[Gawd]

No governments and leaders represent themselves. Their people have always been, under any type of Governance, a secondary concern. This has nothing to do with convenience and only the few who are privileged by them, the blind or incredibly stupid would assume otherwise.

None of which goes any measure to answer my question.

You are so naive.

By reducing your argument to insulting me I'll accept your pre-programmed Anti-Semitic nonsense is so embedded as to have to have over-ridden any ability to rational thought in such discussions and that any challenge to that is perceived as a personal threat to your ego.

You make logical fallacies left and right.

[Gawd]

Well Jim, so me being against the KKK also makes me anti-White by your logic.

Only if your repeated posts kept giving those damn honkies a hard time...

The logic is you can be anti-KKK without being racist against white folk, but you can also clearly be both. Which of those is a reasonable inference depends on looking at the detail of someone's statements on the topic.

And yet I'm not anti-Jewish (race). You inferred wrong.

[Audley Strange]

No governments and leaders represent themselves. Their people have always been, under any type of Governance, a secondary concern. This has nothing to do with convenience and only the few who are privileged by them, the blind or incredibly stupid would assume otherwise.

None of which goes any measure to answer my question.

You are so naive.

By reducing your argument to insulting me I'll accept your pre-programmed Anti-Semitic nonsense is so embedded as to have to have over-ridden any ability to rational thought in such discussions and that any challenge to that is perceived as a personal threat to your ego.

You make logical fallacies left and right.

You are a zealot and as such exactly the same as those you criticise. Mea Culpa, I thought you might have some wits left, I was clearly wrong, my apologies for that.

[Gawd]

Gee, didn't know I expelled some Jews and stole their land.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Gee, didn't know I expelled some Jews and stole their land.

There's that monomania again. You're tedious.