Eve and Adam question

[Bella Fortuna]

Fuck me backwards with a shitty pointed stick, an actual intellectual discussion on Ratz about religion. Who'd of thunk it?

Ack, get me outta here!

[Coito ergo sum]

I'm not even sure if those on the Litany to Old Testament Saints were ever even formally canonized.

No. Not many of them where. I've never heard anyone pray to "St. Moses".

Only in the Litany of Old Testament Saints.

[Animavore]

I'm not even sure if those on the Litany to Old Testament Saints were ever even formally canonized.

No. Not many of them where. I've never heard anyone pray to "St. Moses".

Only in the Litany of Old Testament Saints.

Yes. To my recollection. All our Saints have wholesome Christian names

[Coito ergo sum]

Fuck me backwards with a shitty pointed stick, an actual intellectual discussion on Ratz about religion. Who'd of thunk it?

I love discussing both politics and religion. Most people prefer to argue them though...so in those cases I definitely prefer talking about beer and cheese and tits

Tits? I love tits!

I enjoy religion too, but I'll either discuss it, or argue it, depending on what folks want to do. Religions fascinate me. Whenever I go to a wedding, I peruse the literature and pull the material out of the pews and read it while the service is going on. I love to learn the differences among the denominations and try to understand what's going on there.

I have like this ...I don't know ... hope, I guess...that one day I'll actually find one of these religions that actually provides a plausible or reasonable basis to choose to believe in it.

[Coito ergo sum]

I'm not even sure if those on the Litany to Old Testament Saints were ever even formally canonized.

No. Not many of them where. I've never heard anyone pray to "St. Moses".

Only in the Litany of Old Testament Saints.

Yes. To my recollection. All our Saints have wholesome Christian names

Incidentally, there are several St. Moseses. LOL http://www.catholic.org/saints/stindex.php?lst=M

[Animavore]

I'm not even sure if those on the Litany to Old Testament Saints were ever even formally canonized.

No. Not many of them where. I've never heard anyone pray to "St. Moses".

Only in the Litany of Old Testament Saints.

Yes. To my recollection. All our Saints have wholesome Christian names

Incidentally, there are several St. Moseses. LOL http://www.catholic.org/saints/stindex.php?lst=M

I don't doubt it. It's just that in Ireland we relate to Peters, Marys, Bridgids, Patricks, Johns and Michaels. No damn forrin type names. I'm only speaking from my Irish experience here, of course. I'm aware of St. Romanos and all the like but they tend to be partitioned here. It could be the case that going to different Catholic countries you would get a different group of Saints.

[Coito ergo sum]

I thought you Micks worshiped Saint Amand - patron saint brewers and bartenders.

[Ironclad]

All your questions can be answered here: http://www.adameve.com

[Animavore]

I thought you Micks worshiped Saint Amand - patron saint brewers and bartenders.

Who? He sounds like a Muslim fuck. Can we change his name to 'Anto'?

[hiyymer]

Why in the world would Adam or Eve be saints? They fucked everything up. They're like the anti-saints

Actually there why you can make such statements today. They ate of the apple and gained the knowledge of good and evil. You'd be saying stuff like "So what if I stole your husband. Hey it's just what is, doll. What do you mean I'm an anti-saint? That makes absolutely no sense. What's a saint? "

OR! OR! OR they didn't exist and certainly aren't the source of the knowledge/idea of right and wrong

It's a story. I'm neither a Christian or a Jew, but I really like that story. It's a story about the big brain. It's got nothing to do with sin. The Jews don't have a concept of original sin, and its their story.

[rachelbean]

Why in the world would Adam or Eve be saints? They fucked everything up. They're like the anti-saints

Actually there why you can make such statements today. They ate of the apple and gained the knowledge of good and evil. You'd be saying stuff like "So what if I stole your husband. Hey it's just what is, doll. What do you mean I'm an anti-saint? That makes absolutely no sense. What's a saint? "

OR! OR! OR they didn't exist and certainly aren't the source of the knowledge/idea of right and wrong

It's a story. I'm neither a Christian or a Jew, but I really like that story. It's a story about the big brain. It's got nothing to do with sin. The Jews don't have a concept of original sin, and its their story.

It being their story doesn't matter, how it is interpreted by the people who are deciding who gets sainthood is what would matter in this discussion, right?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I keep seeing "EvenAdam".

[Don't Panic]

I keep seeing "EvenAdam".

I just checked the thread to see if anyone had done the joke, and here you are.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I keep seeing "EvenAdam".

I just checked the thread to see if anyone had done the joke, and here you are.

Age/Treachery > Youth/Skill

[hiyymer]

Why in the world would Adam or Eve be saints? They fucked everything up. They're like the anti-saints

It being their story doesn't matter, how it is interpreted by the people who are deciding who gets sainthood is what would matter in this discussion, right?

Sorry. I thought it was your opinion that they are anti-saints. The Jewish story doesn't say that. Only the Christian interpretation.