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Samuel:
Why did you rule out the possibility that the Universe has always existed in some form or another?

come on simon, thats just stupid. no one takes that seriously.

CJ:It is very easy to get a child to believe pretty much anything you tell them as they are ignorant and gullible. What you have to provide is evidence for the existance of a conscious, omnipotent, omnipresent supernatural being that intelligent, well educated and credulous adults can analyse. Please present such evidence I wish to review it and see what it has to show me.

adults can be fooled too. look how they believe Darwin fella who told them all sort of at this crap about the monkey tale where apes are turing into men. you cant even make this shit up in hollywood films
but since apes aint the topic, we gonna stick with Allah.

evidence is that universe didnt get here by itself. just look at it man, it was produced by something very big, powerful and brainy. some people here saying universe has always been around, but thats just bollocks. the big bang proves their crap ideas wrong. i dont know if you heard of it but me teacher said this whole big universe began with a bang.
now you tell me, who else could have lit the fuse millions of years ago? its got to be some best super explosives expert.
we say it was Allah who caused the explosion. He is muslim you see. Allah loves explosives.
sorry just joking mate. anyways, unless you can tell me some other explosives expert, the best candidate is God of the Quran.

[beige]

**expansion.

Perhaps you want to find a textbook. Or google the big bang.

Edit: Preferably without "proves islam" in the search string.

[mandy]

tattuchu:
Mandelson, let's assume that Allah, as opposed to any other god, made the universe. Who, then, made Allah?

dont be stupid. how can anyone make Allah, he aint like the universe, universe is made, but Allah is unmade. he always been around.

If you say that Allah has always existed, then why can't the universe have always existed?

thats possible, very very very tiny possibility, but it aint probable mate.
my teacher once said that odds are the universe never existed all the time. so please dont be making up imaginary theories alright.

It's a much simpler solution, and renders the idea of a god redundant. This is a pretty basic rebuttal.

its a stupid solution. it dont have no basis from science and its absurd. ask any kid, he'll tell you.

Then again, no offense, but your argument for God's existence is a tired cliche by now, and one easily refuted. It's been a favorite of Christians for quite some time. It's not a convincing argument for the existence of their god, and it's not a convincing argument for the existence of yours either.

You just dont like Allah and dont want him to exist. but tough luck. He is there. like it or not.

Tigger:
I can't actually believe anyone can spout, and believe, such turgid bullshit, but he appears to be doing it, and doing it regularly.

i can imagine it easily coz atheists do it all the time.

Mirthiful Allah.

are you taking the piss tiger? you know what, let me tell you straight, if you mock Allah, one day He is gonna get you. you cant escape Allah. so please, just be sensible and dont go around mocking things that are a lot more powerful than you.

same goes for you maiforpeace. Prophet Mohamed peace be upon him, is the messenger of Allah, so dont push you luck by taking him on.
mock Mohamed and you mock Allah. Mohamed and Allah are best mates.
you gonna be in real trouble in the next life if you take them on.

:pissed:

[mandy]

Svartalf:
a) I've never seen real evidence of divine intervention in the creation of the universe, and plenty evidence contradicting the religious accounts.

read what i said to cj about the grand big explosion caused by Allah.

b) Even if the universe WAS made by a deity, how do you KNOW that it's your allah and not the christian version or maybe the Zoroastrian Ahura Mazda or maybe even some being that never let itself be known to us?

i dont know man. i dont know. we just discussin if some sort of super intelligent powerful being is responsible for all this big wide universe. i reckon its Allah the true God mentioned in Quran. but if you love your Mazda, then you go for him. I love my Allah.

Shh you, don't use Occam's razor on muslim, I don't know if any of their thinkers ever formulated that tool for them and they are intellectually equipped to deal with tha kind of argument

what is that thing? are you talking about circumcision of muslims, coz i never even heard of that razor. i dont even use one.
i just use sisors to trim my beard to make sure it look just as cool as one Clooney got.

[Animavore]

Is the same Allah that caused the universe the same that causes earthquakes, tidal waves, gravity, lightening, magnetism, star formation... Oh. Wait. All of those things happen by themselves

[Tigger]

Fuck me. Epiphany. It's all:

[Thinking Aloud]

are you taking the piss tiger? you know what, let me tell you straight, if you mock Allah, one day He is gonna get you. you cant escape Allah. so please, just be sensible and dont go around mocking things that are a lot more powerful than you.

same goes for you maiforpeace. Prophet Mohamed peace be upon him, is the messenger of Allah, so dont push you luck by taking him on.
mock Mohamed and you mock Allah. Mohamed and Allah are best mates.
you gonna be in real trouble in the next life if you take them on.

:pissed:

Still waiting for that evidence that your god exists.

[Tigger]

are you taking the piss tiger? you know what, let me tell you straight, if you mock Allah, one day He is gonna get you. you cant escape Allah. so please, just be sensible and dont go around mocking things that are a lot more powerful than you.

same goes for you maiforpeace. Prophet Mohamed peace be upon him, is the messenger of Allah, so dont push you luck by taking him on.
mock Mohamed and you mock Allah. Mohamed and Allah are best mates.
you gonna be in real trouble in the next life if you take them on.

:pissed:

Still waiting for that evidence that your god exists.

What alarms me sometimes, is that everyone over 18 can vote.

[beige]

What alarms me sometimes, is that everyone over 18 can vote.

Who's up for a meritocracy then?

*abandons ship*

[Animavore]

Here's the evidence for Allah here.



SEE!? It says so right fucking here :pissed:

Enough of this nonsense. I'm sick of it. Believe what this book says or my god will rape you with his celestial cock spanning light-years for eternity while Satan watches fingering herself like she was a keyboard.

[Tigger]

Here's the evidence for Allah here.



SEE!? It says so right fucking here :pissed:

Enough of this nonsense. I'm sick of it. Believe what this book says or my god will rape you with his celestial cock spanning light-years for eternity while Satan watches fingering herself like she was a keyboard.

What alarms me sometimes, is that everyone over 18 can vote.

Who's up for a meritocracy then?

*abandons ship*

Just remove the occasional one, and it'd make a difference. No one in mind particularly.

[Azathoth]

I'm sticking with Thor. He has a big hammer and could kick Allah's arse. Drinking is mandatory in Valhalla too. You enjoy your 72 raisins while I have my eternal drunken brawl.

[Thinking Aloud]

What alarms me sometimes, is that everyone over 18 can vote.

Who's up for a meritocracy then?

*abandons ship*

Hell yes. Institute a qualification that indicates one is competent to vote. We may all be born equal, but there's some serious variation by the age of 18...

[Animavore]

Where did Allah get the matter he used to create the universe anyway?

I don't remember seeing universal matter in IKEA.

[CJ]

CJ:It is very easy to get a child to believe pretty much anything you tell them as they are ignorant and gullible. What you have to provide is evidence for the existance of a conscious, omnipotent, omnipresent supernatural being that intelligent, well educated and credulous adults can analyse. Please present such evidence I wish to review it and see what it has to show me.

adults can be fooled too. look how they believe Darwin fella who told them all sort of at this crap about the monkey tale where apes are turing into men. you cant even make this shit up in hollywood films

Yes adults can be fooled, but generally only the ignorant and gullible ones. You have now demonstrated your ignorance on two counts a) your lack of understanding of the theory of evolution and b) your poor use of the English language in all of the posts I have read. You have demonstrated your gullibility by believing what you have been told about the Theory of Evolution without checking with good quality primary sources.

It is also evident that your use of logic is flawed, you attempt 'bait and switch' and you create strawmen as though they were going out of fashion. And yet you expect us to take your arguments seriously? This is laughable. You are nominally a adult yet you use the debating techniques of the school yard. Every post you make is a nail in the coffin of your credibility as a proponent of Islam and by inference Islam itself.

And again you use avoidance as a tactic by picking on one element of my reply and ignoring others and in this case in particular ignoring my simple request:-

What you have to provide is evidence for the existance of a conscious, omnipotent, omnipresent supernatural being that intelligent, well educated and credulous adults can analyse. Please present such evidence I wish to review it and see what it has to show me.

By failing to provide any credible evidence at all you simply undermine your own position and reinforce mine. You really do need to learn how to argue better, simple rhetoric, bluster and emotionality is very immature.