Tolstoy's "My Confession": Where do you fit in?

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Which of Tolstoy's categories best fits you?

One: Ignorance, willful or otherwise
2
10%
Two: Epicureanism, chasing pleasure till the end
7
35%
Three: Suicide (No need to answer if you've already done this)
0
No votes
Four: Just hanging around to see what happens next
10
50%
Five: Bacon, cheese, etc., (but that's really a "Two", eh?)
1
5%
 
Total votes: 20

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Post by Cormac » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:19 am

Seems like a happy-go-lucky, devil-may-care chappie!
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:21 am

Tormented as a true Romantic more like.
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Post by Cormac » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:23 am

Svartalf wrote:Tormented as a true Romantic more like.

The Eeyore of any light-hearted carousing!
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:26 am

You called?
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Post by Cormac » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:30 am

Svartalf wrote:You called?

I know you ain't like Eeyore Svarty.

You have a sense of humour...

:)
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:33 am

I'mm a chronic depressive though, especially right now (as in, around the end of year solstice period)
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Svartalf wrote:I'mm a chronic depressive though, especially right now (as in, around the end of year solstice period)

Hang in there Svarty. The Black Dog isn't much of a companion.
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Post by Svartalf » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:56 am

Neither are the plush toys
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Post by Cormac » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:59 am

Svartalf wrote:Neither are the plush toys

:)

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Post by hadespussercats » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:13 am

Well, judging by this excerpt, I'd have to say, Leo Tolstoy was kind of a fucktard.

Huh.

Brings new light to Anna K's end, though, doen't it?

I'm a 1 and a 2.
1. In that I recognize my ignorance, regarding the workings of the universe, the interactions of people and other living things, etc., etc., beyond what must be a pretty paltry collection of knowledge when compared with the bigness/smallness and intricacy of everything.

Also, I don't concede that life is generally evil. So, by his judgement, that makes me ignorant. No surprise there, given my womanhood.

2. Because I believe we should gather in as much experience as we can in this little window of time we each get for the gathering. I don't put quite as high a priority on that experience being pleasurable, per se-- I think there are a lot of different experiences that are worthwhile. Though I'm a sucker for intensity. And also comfort.

Yeah. All of it.

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Post by hadespussercats » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:20 am

Ah. And I see I'm late to the game on the subject of the evil-ness of Life.

Life itself is too encompassing and varied and changing and developing to have a single quality assigned to it-- much less a moral judgement.
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Post by redunderthebed » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:28 am

hadespussercats wrote:Ah. And I see I'm late to the game on the subject of the evil-ness of Life.

Life itself is too encompassing and varied and changing and developing to have a single quality assigned to it-- much less a moral judgement.

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Post by JimC » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:30 am

A rather important position (with a modern twist) has been left out...

Stoicism, with the added flavour that RD at his best demonstrated ably, a deep, continuing fascination with the way the universe works...
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hadespussercats wrote:Ah. And I see I'm late to the game on the subject of the evil-ness of Life.

Life itself is too encompassing and varied and changing and developing to have a single quality assigned to it-- much less a moral judgement.

I think for something to count as evil, there has to be malicious intent - which can't exist without humans. This narrows down the range significantly.

Even then, my response would be "So what?".

His problem is that he is, at root, infected with the religious meme that suggests that there should be some meaning to the universe and consequently to us. This is nonsensical to me, in the realms of a category error. It presupposes an intention, which is to presuppose that an intelligence pre-existed. Isn' this classic "begging the question"

There is no meaning. We don't need a meaning in order to have full and meaningful lives.
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Post by hadespussercats » Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:10 pm

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hadespussercats wrote:Ah. And I see I'm late to the game on the subject of the evil-ness of Life.

Life itself is too encompassing and varied and changing and developing to have a single quality assigned to it-- much less a moral judgement.

I think for something to count as evil, there has to be malicious intent - which can't exist without humans. This narrows down the range significantly.

Even then, my response would be "So what?".

His problem is that he is, at root, infected with the religious meme that suggests that there should be some meaning to the universe and consequently to us. This is nonsensical to me, in the realms of a category error. It presupposes an intention, which is to presuppose that an intelligence pre-existed. Isn' this classic "begging the question"

There is no meaning. We don't need a meaning in order to have full and meaningful lives.
Yeah, well. I don't see why atheists don't just kill themselves.

Seriously? It's hard to believe Tolstoy is as respected as he is, with a viewpoint I associate with fundie dimwits.
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