Atheists are mostly sociopaths.

[DaveDodo007]

I still see that the main point of this thread is being ignored. Atheists still only join popular causes because they want to be seen as good people rather than, you know being good people. You are coming across as autistic (this is a serious condition so I doubt all atheist have it.) Though seriously go and read a phone book.

[JimC]

I still see that the main point of this thread is being ignored. Atheists still only join popular causes because they want to be seen as good people rather than, you know being good people. You are coming across as autistic (this is a serious condition so I doubt all atheist have it.) Though seriously go and read a phone book.

And your evidence for this is?

You seem to be conflating atheists with a particularly dogmatic and annoying sub-group of politically correct left wing poseurs...

Atheists are vastly more diverse than your personal and eccentric view of them as a group...

[DaveDodo007]

I still see that the main point of this thread is being ignored. Atheists still only join popular causes because they want to be seen as good people rather than, you know being good people. You are coming across as autistic (this is a serious condition so I doubt all atheist have it.) Though seriously go and read a phone book.

And your evidence for this is?

You seem to be conflating atheists with a particularly dogmatic and annoying sub-group of politically correct left wing poseurs...

Atheists are vastly more diverse than your personal and eccentric view of them as a group...

It's an opinion piece but I think it is still worth exploring. I am not blaming atheism for the few people who swapped religion for ideology when they lost their religion, even more so as this part seems to be concentrated in America. It does seem to be focused on 'right on' causes however (except for the most blatant abuser of these normally 'right on' causes, namely Islam.) If you are going to call out religion then do so without bias. If you are going to be concerned with human rights then do it consistently, otherwise it is just pandering. The left wing poseurs seem to be leading the narrative without any strong opposition. Until this is problem is addressed, then I am going to call them out on their hypocrisy.

[rachelbean]

Do you really think atheists are any different than other people in this regard? I think you are mistaken. I think people (even atheists) are people.

[Svartalf]

well, then it depends of your general opinion about people... (sez the avowed misanthrope)

[rainbow]

Do you really think atheists are any different than other people in this regard? I think you are mistaken. I think people (even atheists) are people.

Yes, but if you dress up like a sheep are you really a sheep?

[Svartalf]

if it's woolly like a sheep and baahs like a sheep...

[DaveDodo007]

Do you really think atheists are any different than other people in this regard? I think you are mistaken. I think people (even atheists) are people.

"I think people (even atheists) are people." WTF.

To address the opening question. I don't think atheists are any different than other people. I do think a lot of atheists are smug even when they just swap religion for another (lack of any evidence to support it) ideology.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Do you really think atheists are any different than other people in this regard? I think you are mistaken. I think people (even atheists) are people.

"I think people (even atheists) are people." WTF.

To address the opening question. I don't think atheists are any different than other people. I do think a lot of atheists are smug even when they just swap religion for another (lack of any evidence to support it) ideology.

1. "I don't think atheists are any different than other people." Apart from the bleedin' obvious fact that they are distinguished from "other people" (ie. non-atheists) by their lack of belief in any deity (else why give them a name!), this is patently true.

2. "I do think a lot of atheists are smug even when they just swap religion for another (lack of any evidence to support it) ideology." To my mind, religion is no better or worse than any other ideology. If you believe in something simply "because you believe in it", without questioning (or even daring to question) its FACTS, or seeking evidence for its claims, your belief has no more validity than any other, similarly-held belief, whether religious or not.

Where I take issue with you is that you single out atheists as holding ideological views. (Or "a lot" of them, at least - way to quantify! ) This is simply something that you "think". A pre-conceived notion with no visible evidence to back it up. If you like, an ideology.

Of course, there are professed atheists that hold political, social or other ideologies. Just as there are among any group you could name. But are there more atheists falling into this category than members of the general population? Or is "a lot" not quite that many? And, if not, why bother to mention it at all? You might as well say, "I do think a lot of non-swimmers are smug when they participate in other forms of water-borne transportation." Irrelevant.

[JimC]

Do you really think atheists are any different than other people in this regard? I think you are mistaken. I think people (even atheists) are people.

Yes, but if you dress up like a sheep are you really a sheep?

No, it simply means you want to get a quick fuck in New Zealand...

[rainbow]

Do you really think atheists are any different than other people in this regard? I think you are mistaken. I think people (even atheists) are people.

Yes, but if you dress up like a sheep are you really a sheep?

No, it simply means you want to get a quick fuck in New Zealand...

I have to take your word for it.

[pErvinalia]

Not all obviously but too many for it to be a coincidence. For all their self righteous anger they only support rights that make them seems the good guys. When push comes to shove then all the poisons of the lake bubble to the surface. Watch their righteous anger when religious dogma affronts their sensibilities, ho they are so angry. You name it, human rights, women's rights, animal rights, fish rights ad nauseam, ho watch them get red in the face on behalf of people whom the religious don't really care about. Ho the anger of religious oppression, those meanie religious types trying to oppress all these marginalize groups (the horror.) Though when it comes to thinking thing through then fuck that shit as religion and reasons etc. Who are atheists trying to kid. It certainly wasn't the godless that's for sure.

Who needs facts and evidence when the hivemind just listen and believe something something, which you will never find has is like awesome or ethnic people of colour, as atheists have got your back. Well if you live on Mars or something or so long as you don't disagree you might have to listen and believe false rape claims. Fuck it as I'm too drunk to post but I'll be back.

Another rant full of rhetoric and empty of evidence. Why keep starting new threads with the same empty rant? Just put it in one of the old threads. Unless you are only here to troll, that is...

It is just my opinion but OK show me an unpopular cause which atheists support because it is right to do so. It is all posturing.

The right to assisted euthanasia. Not that any of this has anything to do with your repeated drunken rants totally devoid of evidence or argumentation.

[DaveDodo007]

Do you really think atheists are any different than other people in this regard? I think you are mistaken. I think people (even atheists) are people.

"I think people (even atheists) are people." WTF.

To address the opening question. I don't think atheists are any different than other people. I do think a lot of atheists are smug even when they just swap religion for another (lack of any evidence to support it) ideology.

1. "I don't think atheists are any different than other people." Apart from the bleedin' obvious fact that they are distinguished from "other people" (ie. non-atheists) by their lack of belief in any deity (else why give them a name!), this is patently true.

2. "I do think a lot of atheists are smug even when they just swap religion for another (lack of any evidence to support it) ideology." To my mind, religion is no better or worse than any other ideology. If you believe in something simply "because you believe in it", without questioning (or even daring to question) its FACTS, or seeking evidence for its claims, your belief has no more validity than any other, similarly-held belief, whether religious or not.

Where I take issue with you is that you single out atheists as holding ideological views. (Or "a lot" of them, at least - way to quantify! ) This is simply something that you "think". A pre-conceived notion with no visible evidence to back it up. If you like, an ideology.

Of course, there are professed atheists that hold political, social or other ideologies. Just as there are among any group you could name. But are there more atheists falling into this category than members of the general population? Or is "a lot" not quite that many? And, if not, why bother to mention it at all? You might as well say, "I do think a lot of non-swimmers are smug when they participate in other forms of water-borne transportation." Irrelevant.

There are some fair points here though do remember that this is a qualitative position I'm taking and nothing is set in stone. I could even be wrong gasp! Maybe atheists are more caring and tolerant than others but I have yet to see this and have seen the opposite in spades. Also the title didn't help but that was deliberate hyperbole as trying to get a discussion going on a near moribund forum is next to impossible. The idea only came to me when I was debating Scottnumbers whilst I was drunk. I would have called it "The opportunistic altruism of most atheists" if sober, just a lot(lol) of atheists gainsaying religious positions without putting any real thought into these positions.

[Xamonas Chegwé]

Do you really think atheists are any different than other people in this regard? I think you are mistaken. I think people (even atheists) are people.

"I think people (even atheists) are people." WTF.

To address the opening question. I don't think atheists are any different than other people. I do think a lot of atheists are smug even when they just swap religion for another (lack of any evidence to support it) ideology.

1. "I don't think atheists are any different than other people." Apart from the bleedin' obvious fact that they are distinguished from "other people" (ie. non-atheists) by their lack of belief in any deity (else why give them a name!), this is patently true.

2. "I do think a lot of atheists are smug even when they just swap religion for another (lack of any evidence to support it) ideology." To my mind, religion is no better or worse than any other ideology. If you believe in something simply "because you believe in it", without questioning (or even daring to question) its FACTS, or seeking evidence for its claims, your belief has no more validity than any other, similarly-held belief, whether religious or not.

Where I take issue with you is that you single out atheists as holding ideological views. (Or "a lot" of them, at least - way to quantify! ) This is simply something that you "think". A pre-conceived notion with no visible evidence to back it up. If you like, an ideology.

Of course, there are professed atheists that hold political, social or other ideologies. Just as there are among any group you could name. But are there more atheists falling into this category than members of the general population? Or is "a lot" not quite that many? And, if not, why bother to mention it at all? You might as well say, "I do think a lot of non-swimmers are smug when they participate in other forms of water-borne transportation." Irrelevant.

There are some fair points here though do remember that this is a qualitative position I'm taking and nothing is set in stone. I could even be wrong gasp! Maybe atheists are more caring and tolerant than others but I have yet to see this and have seen the opposite in spades. Also the title didn't help but that was deliberate hyperbole as trying to get a discussion going on a near moribund forum is next to impossible. The idea only came to me when I was debating Scottnumbers whilst I was drunk. I would have called it "The opportunistic altruism of most atheists" if sober, just a lot(lol) of atheists gainsaying religious positions without putting any real thought into these positions.

Not putting real thought into their position. Now, who does that remind me of?

[laklak]

You ain't a sheep unless your back legs will fit into my wellies.