In addition to this, many of the best resources are written by theists who also take a sceptical view of history. Knowing the history of the Bible does not seem to affect them. They just say stories of faith, redemption, advesary and dedication are allegory. Dawkins writing such a book, even if he researched it really well, would not have the effect he thinks it would. I've a book, The Bible Unearthed, which says Abraham and Moses never existed. The Exodus is a myth. The Old Testament is propaganda - Yet this doesn't stop it from having glowing endorsements from people like Rowan Williams.rachelbean wrote:There are resources both online and off that cover all of those areas, people just generally don't seek them out unless they are academics.
What would you do, if you were Dawkins?
Re: What would you do, if you were Dawkins?
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It is possible that all religious writings are not completely true.mistermack wrote: There were hundreds of gospels circulating around the years 300 to 400 AD, but only four made it into the bible. One scrap of one dated from that period has Jesus talking about ''my wife'' but the rest is missing. It's tantalising stuff.
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Yeh, but who reads them?Tero wrote:Mac, there are such books. Bart Ehrman. Then another writer Michael White
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/s/ref=is_s_ ... from+jesus
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That's why I would try to produce a definitive work on the subject, if I were Dawkins.
I said produce, not write. I would get people like Ehrman and White, as well as other scholars, to contribute. Even if they were believers, so long as the only wrote facts.
The objective would not be to push atheism, but just to get the facts out there in readable form, so that people could make up their own minds.
Dawkins isn't qualified to write it, but he could produce the project, and give it publicity.
Just like his name produced a great website, before they trashed it, it could do the same for a project of this nature.
It could even be an online project, constantly evolving as people who really know their subject add to it and improve it, a bit like wiki.
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Re: What would you do, if you were Dawkins?
I'd at least get myself a decent hair cut.
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And trim the eyebrows.
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Obviously he should join Rationalia and try for a schism...
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If I were Dawkins, I'd create a universe where everybody loved me and prayed to me.
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And what would you do if they didn't?
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....nothing in the scandal sheets this week. Breathing easy...maybe go for a bike ride and smoke a joint, not at the same time though.... 

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Re: What would you do, if you were Dawkins?
Actually, try Jean Meslier, who wrote the 18th century version of The God Delusion. Available for free on Project Gutenberg.Here's the plain text version you can copy and paste straight into your favourite word processor.Tero wrote:Dawkins could not possibly address the faults of Christianity as well as Joseph mcCabe. An entire library:
http://infidels.org/library/historical/the.html#chr
Sorry, you have to type yes and enter submit these days.
And the link does not work. So go to author index, Joseph McCabe and big blue books. He was a monk once. Teaching order, Franciscan? Only real predecessor to Dawkins.
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Re: What would you do, if you were Dawkins?
Meanwhile, in answer to the OP ...
What would I do if I were Dawkins?
Spend some of my money learning how to operate organisations competently.
What would I do if I were Dawkins?
Spend some of my money learning how to operate organisations competently.
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Re: What would you do, if you were Dawkins?
What would I do if I were Dawkins?
Grow a spine and start explaining that evolution is incompatible with the concepts of egalitarianism and tabula rasa.
Grow a spine and start explaining that evolution is incompatible with the concepts of egalitarianism and tabula rasa.
A rational skeptic should be able to discuss and debate anything, no matter how much they may personally disagree with that point of view. Discussing a subject is not agreeing with it, but understanding it.
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Smite them.Brian Peacock wrote:And what would you do if they didn't?
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Re: What would you do, if you were Dawkins?
He's an academic. Academic and administrative competence are inversely linked. At least that's what 20+ years working in a university has taught me ...Calilasseia wrote:Meanwhile, in answer to the OP ...
What would I do if I were Dawkins?
Spend some of my money learning how to operate organisations competently.
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