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Re: Baptism and hypocritacle

Post by klr » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:40 pm

Svartalf wrote:I could make up an excuse like the first priest was drunk and gave me a completely unbearable name, so they got permission from the bishop to do it over again properly...
... which is getting closer and closer to Father Ted territory. :lol:
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Re: Baptism and hypocritacle

Post by Hermit » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:09 am

Bella Fortuna wrote:Everybody do the Bapdismal Flaunt!

:tut: :tut: :tut: :tut:
LOL. This is the sort of thing why I enjoy following your posts.
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Re: Baptism and hypocritacle

Post by Hermit » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:12 am

Gawdzilla wrote:The biggest problem with the Baptist ritual for adults is that when they push them underwater, for some damn reason they let them surface again. :cranky:
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Re: Baptism and hypocritacle

Post by Bella Fortuna » Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:13 am

Seraph wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:Everybody do the Bapdismal Flaunt!

:tut: :tut: :tut: :tut:
LOL. This is the sort of thing why I enjoy following your posts.
From you I take that as high praise. :tiphat:
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Re: Baptism and hypocritacle

Post by JimC » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:36 am

Both our kids were, since my wife is a catholic...

Mind you, over the years she has become a virtually non-practicing one...

But yes, there was her mum to consider... Didn't worry me really, just another empty ceremony (both lads are non-religious)
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Re: Baptism and hypocritacle

Post by Ronja » Tue Mar 13, 2012 5:49 am

Svartalf wrote:
HomerJay wrote:I thought people gave this shit up long ago, I wasn't baptised and I've never been to one.

I don't think it's just atheists - most christians moved away from this too, I thought?
I suspect the custom runs stronger in Catholic countryes... does CoE even practice infant baptism?
The Evangelic Lutheran Church of Finland is hell-bent on baptizing children as young as possible, but they are running into new kinds of problems lately. Both these stories were published in February:

Ever fewer kids are getting baptized at all, even though one parent or sometimes even both are ELCoF members. In Helsinki the percentage is down to just half of the babies: here's the Google translate version of the story (it's not a bad version - the story was originally in Swedish, which machine translates pretty nicely into other Germanic languages). The non-baptizing phenomenon is typical for cities and larger towns, and for the Finnish-speaking majority, whereas 80-90 % of the babies in rural areas and of the Swedish-speaking minority still get baptized.

Prospective godparents are not very "godly" these days, according to YLE's news in English. Some even “join the church before the baptism, only to part ways after the ceremony” - how shocking! :coffee:
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Re: Baptism and hypocritacle

Post by Faithfree » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:23 am

Bella Fortuna wrote:
Seraph wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:Everybody do the Bapdismal Flaunt!

:tut: :tut: :tut: :tut:
LOL. This is the sort of thing why I enjoy following your posts.
From you I take that as high praise. :tiphat:
Should it be sung to the tune of "The Timewarp" or "Locomotion" :ask:
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Re: Baptism and hypocritacle

Post by Gallstones » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:44 am

It's not like it really matters--does it?



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Re: Baptism and hypocritacle

Post by HomerJay » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:36 am

Gallstones wrote:It's not like it really matters--does it?



There is one advantage for getting one's name "in the book"--genealogy. It gives those who research heritage some information/links.
I think that was true in the old days but now there is such a paper trail everyone lives for ever.

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Re: Baptism and hypocritacle

Post by Clinton Huxley » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:43 am

I was christened but it obviously didn't do much good. I don't fret too much about these things.

My sister never was and I remember being at a another family christening, maybe 15 years ago, when it came out in conversation that this was the case. Some obscure Aunt was quite shocked and said she must be christened immediately or she would go to Hell. I just laughed at her (the Aunt, not my sister)
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Re: Baptism and hypocritacle

Post by JimC » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:55 am

Clinton Huxley wrote:I was christened but it obviously didn't do much good. I don't fret too much about these things.

My sister never was and I remember being at a another family christening, maybe 15 years ago, when it came out in conversation that this was the case. Some obscure Aunt was quite shocked and said she must be christened immediately or she would go to Hell. I just laughed at her (the Aunt, not my sister)
I suspect it would be an interesting test to distinguish between the 2 types of Christians...

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Re: Baptism and hypocritacle

Post by Svartalf » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:59 am

I don't know if this is on topic or would deserve its own thread, but this makes me think of something.

As stated earlier, I was baptized, twice, and also did the Holy Communion, my baby brother was also baptized and incommunicated (and did his elementary schooling in a Catholic establishment). When I was 3, my parents got me a subscription to a strongly christian flavored children's magazine, one of the first books I was given when I was able to read was a kid's primer to the Bible (basically, the more important/colorful/presentable stories told in a language children would understand and largely illustrated)... of course, that was right after a similar kid version of Homer and the main stories of Greek mythology. While I never saw my parents go to church, except for weddings and baptisms, my mother always encouraged my being religious... I suspect that this fostering atmosphere is a contributing factor to why it took me so long to realize what a load of bollocks chretinity is.
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Re: Baptism and hypocritacle

Post by Jesus_of_Nazareth » Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:14 am

I was Baptised by a bloke called John.

FACT.
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Re: Baptism and hypocritacle

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:01 pm

Seraph wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:The biggest problem with the Baptist ritual for adults is that when they push them underwater, for some damn reason they let them surface again. :cranky:
:coffeespray:

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Re: Baptism and hypocritacle

Post by Coito ergo sum » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:50 pm

matthewr88 wrote:Hey all,

I've got a couple of friends who are having their two daughters baptised on Easter Sunday at their local Catholic church. Now the female in this relationship openly admitted that she "doesn't believe in all that god crap", but is getting her kids baptised "just in case". Just in case they end up in limbo for a sin they had no part in, or choice in committing. If you don't believe it, then why is it necessary to hedge your bets?
Well, if you do believe it, then it wouldn't be hedging, so....

matthewr88 wrote:
My wife had the same issue stating she couldn't forgive herself if it turned out those wack jobs were actually correct.
Sounds like she had the myth drummed into her growing up, and now despite the fact that she can see rationally that it's nonsense, she is cursed with the nagging "what if?" question prodding her in the ribs. Plus, if it costs her nothing, then she has nothing to lose.

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