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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by CJ » Sat Apr 17, 2010 4:16 pm

mandelson wrote:im tell you many different proofs for God so even a child can see it.
It is very easy to get a child to believe pretty much anything you tell them as they are ignorant and gullible. What you have to provide is evidence for the existance of a conscious, omnipotent, omnipresent supernatural being that intelligent, well educated and credulous adults can analyse. Please present such evidence I wish to review it and see what it has to show me.

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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by mindyourmind » Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:28 am

Tigger wrote:
Charlou wrote:He's either a poe ... or a very eccentric muslim ... either way I can't helping :mrgreen: ing at his posts.
I am trying.

Having thought about it, it is mirthful. :tup:

Mirthiful Allah.
Well, maybe I should approach him with my wonderful business opportunity - a chain of cool bars all across the Middle East - something like the Buddha Bars of Paris etc, only I intend calling it 'Allah Ak Bar". Cool huh?

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So you are saying that the reason why God created the universe, including millions of years of human and animal suffering, and the extinction of most species, is so that at the end of all of that a select few humans could be with him forever. I see.

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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by klr » Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:59 pm

Since actual "evidence" appears to be a bit thin on the ground at the moment, maybe we should help things along ...

http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm

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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by Feck » Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:25 pm

This one fits here ......


PEACOCK ARGUMENT FROM LIMITED VOCABULARY
(1) You use lots of big words.
(2) Therefore, I cannot possibly be expected to understand your refutation of my position.
(3) Therefore, God exists.
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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by Samuel » Sun Apr 18, 2010 6:23 pm

mandelson wrote:this is a whole big universe right?
now you tell me... who made it. not me. not you. obviously it didnt made itself.
so who did the universe.

answer is ALLAH.
Why did you rule out the possibility that the Universe has always existed in some form or another?

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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by Elessarina » Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:44 pm

pawiz wrote: Gosh I'd never thought of that. Brilliant logic. I'll be facing east today.

That made me :funny: :funny: :funny:

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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by Svartalf » Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:53 pm

mandelson wrote:
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You've just said, "I don't know, so I'll make up an answer."

no im being honest. that is the right answer. i didnt make it up.
So that's what you believe... ok, a billion other bipeds believe it too... that doesn't make it evidence.

a) I've never seen real evidence of divine intervention in the creation of the universe, and plenty evidence contradicting the religious accounts.

b) Even if the universe WAS made by a deity, how do you KNOW that it's your allah and not the christian version or maybe the Zoroastrian Ahura Mazda or maybe even some being that never let itself be known to us?
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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by Bella Fortuna » Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:56 pm

mindyourmind wrote:
Tigger wrote:
Charlou wrote:He's either a poe ... or a very eccentric muslim ... either way I can't helping :mrgreen: ing at his posts.
I am trying.

Having thought about it, it is mirthful. :tup:

Mirthiful Allah.
Well, maybe I should approach him with my wonderful business opportunity - a chain of cool bars all across the Middle East - something like the Buddha Bars of Paris etc, only I intend calling it 'Allah Ak Bar". Cool huh?

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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by Svartalf » Sun Apr 18, 2010 7:57 pm

tattuchu wrote:Mandelson, let's assume that Allah, as opposed to any other god, made the universe. Who, then, made Allah? If you say that Allah has always existed, then why can't the universe have always existed? It's a much simpler solution, and renders the idea of a god redundant. This is a pretty basic rebuttal. Then again, no offense, but your argument for God's existence is a tired cliche by now, and one easily refuted. It's been a favorite of Christians for quite some time. It's not a convincing argument for the existence of their god, and it's not a convincing argument for the existence of yours either.

Can somebody tell me if this mendelson fellow is for real? Surely he's taking the piss :think:
Shh you, don't use Occam's razor on muslim, I don't know if any of their thinkers ever formulated that tool for them and they are intellectually equipped to deal with tha kind of argument
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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by MrFungus420 » Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:57 pm

mandelson wrote:im tell you many different proofs for God so even a child can see it.

first one first:

this is a whole big universe right?
now you tell me... who made it. not me. not you. obviously it didnt made itself.
so who did the universe.
This is called "begging the question".

Your questions assumes the answer. You ask "who". That eliminates every possible answer that is not a "who".
mandelson wrote:answer is ALLAH.
The answer is The Great Green Arkleseizure.

See how easy it is to make an unsupported statement?
mandelson wrote:i will tell you more evidences later on as we discuss one at a time.
that was the first evidence. so there you are.
That's not evidence. That is a claim.

You see, evidence would be the things that support your claims.
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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by mindyourmind » Mon Apr 19, 2010 6:10 am

Svartalf wrote:
tattuchu wrote:Mandelson, let's assume that Allah, as opposed to any other god, made the universe. Who, then, made Allah? If you say that Allah has always existed, then why can't the universe have always existed? It's a much simpler solution, and renders the idea of a god redundant. This is a pretty basic rebuttal. Then again, no offense, but your argument for God's existence is a tired cliche by now, and one easily refuted. It's been a favorite of Christians for quite some time. It's not a convincing argument for the existence of their god, and it's not a convincing argument for the existence of yours either.

Can somebody tell me if this mendelson fellow is for real? Surely he's taking the piss :think:
Shh you, don't use Occam's razor on muslim, I don't know if any of their thinkers ever formulated that tool for them and they are intellectually equipped to deal with tha kind of argument
I can hear it now - "You come at me with razor, huh? Fuck you !! A thousand curses on you for attacking Allah's people with razor !!!!! Fuck you, we will bomb your house for coming at us with razor. We are victims here, because we are Muslims, Attacked with razor !!"
So you are saying that the reason why God created the universe, including millions of years of human and animal suffering, and the extinction of most species, is so that at the end of all of that a select few humans could be with him forever. I see.

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Re: Evidence for Allah

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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by mandy » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:06 am

Samuel:
Why did you rule out the possibility that the Universe has always existed in some form or another?
come on simon, thats just stupid. no one takes that seriously.
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It is very easy to get a child to believe pretty much anything you tell them as they are ignorant and gullible. What you have to provide is evidence for the existance of a conscious, omnipotent, omnipresent supernatural being that intelligent, well educated and credulous adults can analyse. Please present such evidence I wish to review it and see what it has to show me.
adults can be fooled too. look how they believe Darwin fella who told them all sort of at this crap about the monkey tale where apes are turing into men. you cant even make this shit up in hollywood films :mrgreen:
but since apes aint the topic, we gonna stick with Allah.


evidence is that universe didnt get here by itself. just look at it man, it was produced by something very big, powerful and brainy. some people here saying universe has always been around, but thats just bollocks. the big bang proves their crap ideas wrong. i dont know if you heard of it but me teacher said this whole big universe began with a bang.
now you tell me, who else could have lit the fuse millions of years ago? its got to be some best super explosives expert.
we say it was Allah who caused the explosion. He is muslim you see. Allah loves explosives. :mrgreen: sorry just joking mate.

anyways, unless you can tell me some other explosives expert, the best candidate is God of the Quran.


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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by mandy » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:07 am

MrFungus420:
The answer is The Great Green Arkleseizure.
dont try to be funny, coz you aint.
You see, evidence would be the things that support your claims.
i did. but you dont even read it. are you saying that big bang discovered by scientists last century is not evidence for you? to some people its good enough. i gave you the initial explosion as proper evidence to support my claim that Allah was behind it. it is scientitic evidence.
i didnt just make it up like some of you guys do just to say there is no God out there.
are you telling me astronomers got it all wrong when they say it did begin with a massive explosion. some of you guys are so brainwashed. you just oppose any clear proofs from provided by science that backs me up. maybe you just dont like muslims stating logical things.



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Re: Evidence for Allah

Post by Thinking Aloud » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:07 am

So can you provide some evidence of that?

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