Atheism and homosexuality

[owtth]

I am not homosexual, I've always watched female porn, maybe once I twice I watched gay porn, since I thought it was actually funny. I've only maybe once or twice in my entire life fantasied about men while masturbating. Yes when I was younger I did homosexual activities with another two boys, which I enjoyed. But as soon as I was able to get a girl I always stuck with a girl exclusively. I think it is complete bullshit when a male says he would never have sex with another man or at least fondle around, take away women from a person and put them in a male exclusive environment, and they will pretty much start to get off with other guys. Prime example is prison or segregated communities. Its only a matter of time. But the fact that I have an able supply of women and I am able to conquer them I prefer to have sex with women. Human sexuality is quite lucid.

This songs for you

[charlou]

If one of us was a lady ... and I was your man ...

[epepke]

Now, now.

What ...Idle is describing seems to be the most common pattern, the plurality development of males who are usually referred to as heterosexual when they grow up. Going through a period of sexual activity with members of the same sex while still underage is not at all uncommon.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Going through a period of sexual activity with members of the same sex while still underage is not at all uncommon.

Okay, somebody owes me some nasty then.

[...Idle]

So none of you guys never as kids fondled around with another guy? I mean I was taught masturbation by a friend. Come to think of it, in our teens years a bunch of us guys would weep our cocks out and see who had the bigger one, incidentally I posted a picture my cock on a forum where some of the ladies were saying they think I have a small penis. Look, I prefer to have sex with women, although I am quite selective, since I like my women to have sublime femininity, and be dominant during sex, because I like being tortured by them.

It's like this, most women actually find the thought of being raped arousing, but would not want to be raped. So must guys would have a thought about a guy and maybe find it arousing but would not want to have sex with a guy.

[Tigger]

So none of you guys never as kids fondled around with another guy? I mean I was taught masturbation by a friend. Come to think of it, in our teens years a bunch of us guys would weep our cocks out and see who had the bigger one, incidentally I posted a picture my cock on a forum where some of the ladies were saying they think I have a small penis. Look, I prefer to have sex with women, although I am quite selective, since I like my women to have sublime femininity, and be dominant during sex, because I like being tortured by them.

It's like this, most women actually find the thought of being raped arousing, but would not want to be raped. So must guys would have a thought about a guy and maybe find it arousing but would not want to have sex with a guy.

Oh deary me.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

So none of you guys never as kids fondled around with another guy?

Just the gay ones.

[Hermit]

For the third time now, ...Idle...

Speaking of positions, I am still waiting for Idle to reply to this:

I see homosexuality as a disability, since there is no evolutionary desire for a homosexual to have sex with a woman and in turn produce off-spring, which is essentially the propose of all living species, i.e. to propagate their genes through asexual/sexual production. For lesbians this is not a problem in the sense as in evolution as rape of females within a species actually has an evolutionary benefit.

You really need to reconsider the notion that if something is natural, it is therefore good. In this particular instance - the purpose, as you put it, to propagate - can be argued to be a very bad thing in terms of the survival of the human species. Our population is rapidly heading toward the 7 billion mark and the most conservative estimate is that it will plateau at just under 11 billion in 2100. Most estimates regarding sustainability indicate that we, as a species, are about to make this planet uninhabitable by sheer weight of numbers. We may be in the process of actually breeding ourselves out of existence. If something is natural, it is not automatically a good thing.

[charlou]

So none of you guys never as kids fondled around with another guy? I mean I was taught masturbation by a friend. Come to think of it, in our teens years a bunch of us guys would weep our cocks out and see who had the bigger one

I don't know about the guys here, but I believe the curiosity and experimentation you describe is pretty common. It's no big deal.

It's like this, most women actually find the thought of being raped arousing, but would not want to be raped. So must guys would have a thought about a guy and maybe find it arousing but would not want to have sex with a guy.

Most? Have you conducted surveys, Mr Kinsey?

[owtth]

So none of you guys never as kids fondled around with another guy?

nope

[epepke]

Most? Have you conducted surveys, Mr Kinsey?

Not a clear majority, specifying between 31% and 57%, depending on the study, but Psychology Today is a reasonable if popular source: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/bra ... -fantasies Anyway, the incidence is comparable, so it's a valid comparison.

[...Idle]

Rape fantasizes are quite common, a number of girls I have been with have had them, some even suggested playing them out (including my wife) although it really is not my thing. Also, I read in a scientific journal that, rape is adaptive and not pathological, as generally assumed.

[Jack Rawlinson]

Hi there,

I've been an atheist for 3 or 4 years now, and I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much. In all my years I have found only a hand full of atheists who have had any objection to homosexuality. Why is there a lack of objection to homosexuality within the atheist community?

Because it isn't rational to object to homosexuality, and most atheists are rational people.

Also, why are some homosexuals proud of being homosexual? It makes no sense to me, it makes about much sense to me as a disabled person being proud of being disabled.

Pride is a dodgy emotion, for sure, but gay "pride" is more about refusing to be ashamed, and the reason it is important is because society has always tried to make gay people ashamed of the way they are.

[Tails Turrosaki]

Hi there,

I've been an atheist for 3 or 4 years now, and I find that majority of atheists are either ardent supporters of homosexuality, are homosexuals themselves or don't really care much. In all my years I have found only a hand full of atheists who have had any objection to homosexuality. Why is there a lack of objection to homosexuality within the atheist community?

Also, why are some homosexuals proud of being homosexual? It makes no sense to me, it makes about much sense to me as a disabled person being proud of being disabled.

As a homosexual myself, I guess I'm not proud to be one, but I feel lucky to be one... After all, 1/10 (or was it 1/20?) people are gay.

We're pro-gay because there's no reason to be against it in the first place. It's natural, you're born with it, it exists, and there's nothing wrong with them as a whole (individually there might be with a few). Any atheist who's homophobic is probably a homosexual himself/herself, had a bad experience with one, or was indoctrinated to think they were bad in some way.

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Any atheist person who's homophobic is probably a homosexual himself/herself, had a bad experience with one, or was indoctrinated to think they were bad in some way.

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Idle take note of the above, could this apply to you?