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Re: Questions to Muslim Mandelson

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Ghatanothoa wrote:Kittiez all the way
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If they are around, you should be able to call the Orkin-Man to get rid of them...
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Re: Questions to Muslim Mandelson

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Ghatanothoa wrote:Kittiez all the way
Filthy, disgusting vermin.

If they are around, you should be able to call the Orkin Gawdzilla-man to get rid of adopt them...
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Re: Questions to Muslim Mandelson

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:43 pm

maiforpeace wrote:
MrFungus420 wrote:
Ghatanothoa wrote:Kittiez all the way
Filthy, disgusting vermin.

If they are around, you should be able to call the Orkin Gawdzilla-man to get rid of adopt them...
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Re: Questions to Muslim Mandelson

Post by mandy » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:45 am

orpheus:
Okay, so your approval of these laws is location-dependent. How do you square that with "They are God's laws"?

They are still God's laws.

Are God's laws location-dependent? If not, do they apply everywhere?

Yes. Muslims can only chop the hands off burglar where there is a muslim judge in the court. Only he can order such a thing. We can't start amputations in Paris can we?

And if they apply everywhere, then shouldn't you agree with them no matter where you are?

I agree with Allah who says that murders should have their heads cut off, and burglars should have their hands chopped off.

Which brings me back to this:

Do you agree with what Islamic law says should be done with homosexuals? If not, how can you call yourself a Muslim?

Ok. I am a muslim. I do not go against any of Allah's laws as stated in His book.
In an Islamic country where there is muslim supreme court, they have the right to give death penatly to gay men caught doing their dirty things in the park. I would not oppose that.


Ghatanothoa:
I agree that if I was living in a muslim country I would have to abide by their laws even though I don't agree with them. Why can't muslims extend the same courtesy when they are not in a muslim country?

Muslims do accept laws of non-muslim nations. Even Tony Blair and Gerorge Bush admitted that Muslims are most law abiding citizens. We do not oppose whatever laws parliament or congress passes.

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If I was allowed to call you a twat I would. But the rules don't allow it. So I won't.

if you really want to then you can call me. I dont mind.
Mods, please let RUM get things off his chest; please dont punish him on my behalf. I like him even though i disagree with him.


Elessarina:
So because i don't believe in a God and follow some ridiculous medieval rules mdae up by a paedophile you think my life is messed up?

im saying look at our countries and huge social problems secular society is facing... crime, drugs, teen pregancies, alcoholics, pedos, institutional racism, murders, dodgy mps, lying politicians, etc etc etc... so many immoral things and still you point fingers at greatest man who ever lived. thats just hypocracy.

Bella Fortuna:
I have more credibility in my little immoral finger than that so-called 'prophet.'

really? prove it. i got to see this

Animavore:
Muslims tend not to have dogs. Mohammed seems to think they're wretched creatures and well, you know, monkey see monkey do.

Thats right. Prophet Mohammed said Angels do not enter and bless the homes where there are dogs. Dogs dirty the place.

FBM:
And shouldn't you be talking about 'allah' instead of 'god', anyway?

What do you mean? Allah is the name of God. Quran says Allah is the only true God who created our Universe. All other gods are fake made up by men.

if you guys dont like my views, i will leave and not come back.
just tell the mods to ban me. they have the power to throw me out if they think im going against the rules. im know this atheist forum is your place. you can do whatever you like. i also know that you dont like hearing certain things. but im not going to lie or hide only to please you.
im gonna say what i believe and im gonna defend it no matter what.


see, i aint running away from your tough questions. you can ask me whatever you like about my religion. im sure we most people when they see news and read anti-muslim stories, they hear all sort of shit stuff which is all fase and propaganda against Islam. media always lies and dont give you anything honest. thats why im here to remove any misconception you guys may have.
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Re: Questions to Muslim Mandelson

Post by mandy » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:49 am

see, i aint running away from your tough questions. you can ask me whatever you like about my religion.
im sure we most people when they see news and read anti-muslim stories, they hear all sort of shit stuff which is all fase and propaganda against Islam. media always lies and dont give you anything honest. thats why im here to remove any misconception you guys may have.
only objective people hear both sides of the story before making up their minds. but most people just swallow whatever they like to hear against muslims. thats not very logical is it.
do you ever hear the news from muslim point of view. I dont think so. i bet most of you dont even know any muslim newspaper of an Islam television channel like PRESS TV.
I bet all you do is read anti-muslim internet websites.
have you even seen proper muslim news site like http://www.presstv.ir
i dont think so.
have you ever visited an authorised islamic website, such as http://www.al-islam.org
i dont think so. you can read a whole library of books and authentic muslim information there.

I think all you guys do is watch is CNN and FOX NEWS and BBC to get your information about islam and muslims. you rely totally on them. WHY !!! You just believe whatever President or Foriegn Secretary is telling you.
surely you cant trust biased media to give out reliable information about islam and muslims.
if you wanna know about facts as muslim see them, then you have to get em from them.
We got many TV stations and papers. but most are in Arabic. Only Press TV is in English and gives Islamic side of the newsreports.


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Re: Questions to Muslim Mandelson

Post by Animavore » Mon Mar 22, 2010 11:57 am

mandelson wrote:see, i aint running away from your tough questions. you can ask me whatever you like about my religion.
You ran away from answering my thought experiment back here http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 75#p402297

mandelson wrote:I think all you guys do is watch is CNN and FOX NEWS and BBC to get your information about islam and muslims. you rely totally on them. WHY !!! You just believe whatever President or Foriegn Secretary is telling you.
surely you cant trust biased media to give out reliable information about islam and muslims.
if you wanna know about facts as muslim see them, then you have to get em from them.
We got many TV stations and papers. but most are in Arabic. Only Press TV is in English and gives Islamic side of the newsreports.


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Re: Questions to Muslim Mandelson

Post by mandy » Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:07 pm

Animavore wrote:
mandelson wrote:see, i aint running away from your tough questions. you can ask me whatever you like about my religion.
You ran away from answering my thought experiment back here http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 75#p402297
if you check i did answer you, maybe you missed it:

http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 75#p402309

you still haven't given me name of one Psychologist who had said
that Prophet Mohammed did anything wrong when he married Aisha 6.
im waiting waiting for a name.

Think what you want. I usually get my news from a combination of Channel 4, CNN, Al Jazeera and independent journalists on the internet.
you too can think whatever you want.
I get my information from God and His perfect book the Quran, which is a lot better than your CNN and Channel 4 and "independent journalists", what a joke they are.
if you want to to live in the ignorence of bliss, then thats your right.


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Re: Questions to Muslim Mandelson

Post by Animavore » Mon Mar 22, 2010 12:19 pm

mandelson wrote:you still haven't given me name of one Psychologist who had said
that Prophet Mohammed did anything wrong when he married Aisha 6.
im waiting waiting for a name.
That wasn't an answer that was an evasion. My question had a link to an article that said paedophilia is classed as a mental disorder by psychologists but as you asked here is at least one psychologist that agrees http://www.amazon.com/Psychology-Mohamm ... 1427617295
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Re: Questions to Muslim Mandelson

Post by FBM » Mon Mar 22, 2010 2:43 pm

Mandy, how do you know the Quran is the 'true word of God Allah'? Because it says so in the Quran? Because some influential guy told you it was? Or because you're wilfully blinding yourself by 'believing' Fantastic Tales of the Supernatural!! in an old book dictated by an illiterate paedo because the book tells you that you're a unique, special snowflake in the eyes of an imaginary sky-daddy?

Oh, if it's the '72 virgins in paradise' thing, I got news for you: I've deflowered a few virgins. It's overrated. They just lie there. :roll:
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Post by Thinking Aloud » Mon Mar 22, 2010 3:51 pm

mandelson wrote:if you guys dont like my views, i will leave and not come back.
Bet you won't.

We don't ban people here, sorry.
mandelson wrote:just tell the mods to ban me. they have the power to throw me out if they think im going against the rules.
No they don't. You can be temporarily suspended if you break the rules, but not banned.
mandelson wrote:thats why im here to remove any misconception you guys may have.
So far you've confirmed just about everything I ever thought was wrong with it.

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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:04 pm

Mandy wrote:I think all you guys do is watch is CNN and FOX NEWS and BBC to get your information about islam and muslims. you rely totally on them.
Why would I need to base my views of islam on the media when I can get a perfectly coherent view regarding its disgusting, anti-humanitarian, self-justifying and insidious nature merely by listening to proselyters like you spout? :dono:
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Post by kiki5711 » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:20 pm

mandelson wrote:
Animavore wrote:
mandelson wrote:see, i aint running away from your tough questions. you can ask me whatever you like about my religion.
You ran away from answering my thought experiment back here http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 75#p402297
if you check i did answer you, maybe you missed it:

http://rationalia.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 75#p402309

you still haven't given me name of one Psychologist who had said
that Prophet Mohammed did anything wrong when he married Aisha 6.
im waiting waiting for a name.

Think what you want. I usually get my news from a combination of Channel 4, CNN, Al Jazeera and independent journalists on the internet.
you too can think whatever you want.
I get my information from God and His perfect book the Quran, which is a lot better than your CNN and Channel 4 and "independent journalists", what a joke they are.
if you want to to live in the ignorence of bliss, then thats your right.


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Post by Rob » Mon Mar 22, 2010 4:46 pm

I get my information from God and His perfect book the Quran, which is a lot better than your CNN and Channel 4 and "independent journalists", what a joke they are.
I simply can't take him seriously. This is the problem with fundamentalism. I simply am not convinced that he is so blinded with religion that he believes what he is saying.
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Post by mandy » Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:06 pm

Xamonas Chegwé:
Why would I need to base my views of islam on the media when I can get a perfectly coherent view regarding its disgusting, anti-humanitarian, self-justifying and insidious nature merely by listening to proselyters like you spout?

Nice try. dont pin your ignorance and brainwashings on me.
I didnt say anything that makes Allah look bad. He is my Creator.
I said Quran is beautiful, simple, clear, easy, morally perfect, scientifically advanced, and has socially the most superiour system than anything that man had even known since the dawn of time.


ScienceRob :
This is the problem with fundamentalism. I simply am not convinced that he is so blinded with religion that he believes what he is saying.

its the same problem with atheist fundamentalism too. we agree on something. :tup:

kiki5711:
You want everything we have but you're trying to cover it with stupid Islam.

thats not true. I dont want everything you have. i dont want drugs, dont want alcohol, i want to watch lies on TV, I dont do adultery... etc etc etc etc.....


Animavore:
paedophilia is classed as a mental disorder by psychologists but as you asked here is at least one psychologist that agrees [Masud Ansari].

Thanks you, but Dr Masud Ansari is an avowed enemy of Islam; so obviously its natural for him to hate us.
he is bound to say only the bad things about Prophet Mohammed.
what we need is a neutral psychologist who dont have conflict of interests. so, please try again Animavore.


FMB:
Mandy, how do you know the Quran is the 'true word of God?

in the same way you would know that Page 3 in The SUN newspaper is the real thing.

Oh, if it's the '72 virgins in paradise' thing, I got news for you:
I've deflowered a few virgins. It's overrated. They just lie there.

oh nooooo. thats no good news.
thanks for stopping me from wasting my time FMB. you're the man.
thats it, im taking my suicide belt off now. whats the point anymore.


Thinking Aloud:
We don't ban people here, sorry.

oh man, you have also spoiled my chances of martydom. thanks a lot, mate. :evil:

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