5 reasons atheism is irrational

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Re: 5 reasons atheism is irrational

Post by Azathoth » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:44 pm

There are many documents containing "eye-witness accounts" of the greco-roman pantheon that could be classed as historical in the same way as the bible is. The works of Homer for instance.
Outside the ordered universe is that amorphous blight of nethermost confusion which blasphemes and bubbles at the center of all infinity—the boundless daemon sultan Azathoth, whose name no lips dare speak aloud, and who gnaws hungrily in inconceivable, unlighted chambers beyond time and space amidst the muffled, maddening beating of vile drums and the thin monotonous whine of accursed flutes.

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Re: 5 reasons atheism is irrational

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:46 pm

Ghatanothoa wrote:There are many documents containing "eye-witness accounts" of the greco-roman pantheon that could be classed as historical in the same way as the bible is. The works of Homer for instance.
Exactamundo. The Olympians interacted with humans frequently. The demigods were just one concrete manifestation of their presence.
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Re: 5 reasons atheism is irrational

Post by Animavore » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:47 pm

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Animavore wrote:No. The other Resurrection stories are told from a different point of view. When you put all the stories together it makes loads of sense. It's like Pulp Fiction with different bits happening before other bits but it all comes together.
Ah, so you can pick-and-choose amongst the bits and decide which parts are right for you?
:clap: Now you're getting it. Jesus has a different story to tell to everyone who hears him. It's like one of those Ian Livingstone books. You can choose different paths which lead you to different outcomes making the story unique to you.
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Re: 5 reasons atheism is irrational

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:49 pm

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Animavore wrote:No. The other Resurrection stories are told from a different point of view. When you put all the stories together it makes loads of sense. It's like Pulp Fiction with different bits happening before other bits but it all comes together.
Ah, so you can pick-and-choose amongst the bits and decide which parts are right for you?
:clap: Now you're getting it. Jesus has a different story to tell to everyone who hears him. It's like one of those Ian Livingstone books. You can choose different paths which lead you to different outcomes making the story unique to you.
Just be careful not to choose the wrong one or you're fucked!
But all of them claim to be The Gospel. So if some of them are others have to be wrong. But they're in the Bible, so they're Gospel and thus can't be wrong. Unless something in the Bible contradicts them, in which case one or both are wrong. But they're Gospel, so they CAN'T be wrong. Can they?
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Re: 5 reasons atheism is irrational

Post by Rum » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:50 pm

Animavore wrote: Just be careful not to choose the wrong one or you're fucked!
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Re: 5 reasons atheism is irrational

Post by Animavore » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:51 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Animavore wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Animavore wrote:No. The other Resurrection stories are told from a different point of view. When you put all the stories together it makes loads of sense. It's like Pulp Fiction with different bits happening before other bits but it all comes together.
Ah, so you can pick-and-choose amongst the bits and decide which parts are right for you?
:clap: Now you're getting it. Jesus has a different story to tell to everyone who hears him. It's like one of those Ian Livingstone books. You can choose different paths which lead you to different outcomes making the story unique to you.
Just be careful not to choose the wrong one or you're fucked!
But all of them claim to be The Gospel. So if some of them are others have to be wrong. But they're in the Bible, so they're Gospel and thus can't be wrong. Unless something in the Bible contradicts them, in which case one or both are wrong. But they're Gospel, so they CAN'T be wrong. Can they?
Yeah... but... eh...

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Re: 5 reasons atheism is irrational

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:00 pm

I'm sure Theophilus can straighten you out, Ani.
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Re: 5 reasons atheism is irrational

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Gawdzilla wrote:I'm sure Theophilus can straighten you out, Ani.

'Zilla did you just "out" Ani ? I thought he was staying in the closet ? :think:
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Re: 5 reasons atheism is irrational

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:03 pm

Feck wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:I'm sure Theophilus can straighten you out, Ani.

'Zilla did you just "out" Ani ? I thought he was staying in the closet ? :think:
Sorry, I thought people had been reading his posts so I just assumed everybody knew. :dono:
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Re: 5 reasons atheism is irrational

Post by tattuchu » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:05 pm

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tattuchu wrote:This Theophilus seems like a nice guy, intelligent and well-spoken. Nothing for nothing, but I just felt compelled to throw that out :ask:
Well that is very kind of you.

And you, if I may say so, are a very nice looking bit of bread.
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Re: 5 reasons atheism is irrational

Post by Theophilus » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:16 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:I'm sure Theophilus can straighten you out, Ani.
As a starting point it is worth thinking about who each of the Gospels were written for. What was the starting point of each audience? Would you present the Gospel in the same way to a Jew, a Roman, a gentile and someone who is already a reasonably knowledgeable Christian?
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Re: 5 reasons atheism is irrational

Post by Animavore » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:17 pm

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Gawdzilla wrote:I'm sure Theophilus can straighten you out, Ani.
As a starting point it is worth thinking about who each of the Gospels were written for. What was the starting point of each audience?
Gullibility?
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Re: 5 reasons atheism is irrational

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:20 pm

Theophilus wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:I'm sure Theophilus can straighten you out, Ani.
As a starting point it is worth thinking about who each of the Gospels were written for. What was the starting point of each audience?
Wrong starting point. The claim is that the Gospels are "Gospel". The Gospels contradict each other. Which absolute truth is absolutely true?
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Re: 5 reasons atheism is irrational

Post by Theophilus » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:32 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
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Gawdzilla wrote:I'm sure Theophilus can straighten you out, Ani.
As a starting point it is worth thinking about who each of the Gospels were written for. What was the starting point of each audience?
Wrong starting point. The claim is that the Gospels are "Gospel". The Gospels contradict each other. Which absolute truth is absolutely true?
I see no contradiction in the message (the gospel) being presented; just different presentations of that message. That's why we have four Gospels chosen to be in the canon rather than one (which would be simpler, but more restricted).
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Re: 5 reasons atheism is irrational

Post by Animavore » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:33 pm

Theophilus wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Theophilus wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:I'm sure Theophilus can straighten you out, Ani.
As a starting point it is worth thinking about who each of the Gospels were written for. What was the starting point of each audience?
Wrong starting point. The claim is that the Gospels are "Gospel". The Gospels contradict each other. Which absolute truth is absolutely true?
I see no contradiction in the message (the gospel) being presented; just different presentations of that message. That's why we have four Gospels chosen to be in the canon rather than one (which would be simpler, but more restricted).
What's the message?
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