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Re: The moderate religion is ok argument

Post by Pappa » Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:48 pm

Dr. Pappa wrote:Dawkins also argues that moderate religion teaches people to believe a pretty bland lie, when the truth is far more amazing and wonderful.
And to believe in lies generally, which is wrong in his opinion.
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Re: The moderate religion is ok argument

Post by Pappa » Sat Jan 02, 2010 12:48 pm

Animavore wrote:I still think my argument captured it best.

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Re: The moderate religion is ok argument

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:03 pm

"moderate" religions are those that are afraid to take a more radical stand. They mutate when a loon decides on a schism. Speciation of religion is the reason there are so many types of protestantism. All they need is one more Martin Luther and they're haring off in a (slightly) new direction.
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Re: The moderate religion is ok argument

Post by cowiz » Sat Jan 02, 2010 1:57 pm

You either do exactly what your particular holy book of choice tells you to do, or you don't - how can you be a true believer and yet cherry pick out the parts you find reprehensible or downright immoral? Any Xtian worth his/her salt must stone anyone they see picking up sticks on the Sabbath.

Moderate religion is simply choosing the parts of the story that you want to believe based on your personal world-view. Now that's not being religious now is it?
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Re: The moderate religion is ok argument

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:12 pm

pawiz wrote:You either do exactly what your particular holy book of choice tells you to do, or you don't - how can you be a true believer and yet cherry pick out the parts you find reprehensible or downright immoral? Any Xtian worth his/her salt must stone anyone they see picking up sticks on the Sabbath.

Moderate religion is simply choosing the parts of the story that you want to believe based on your personal world-view. Now that's not being religious now is it?
This is exactly my point about Merkins. They are selective and extremely ignorant of the contents of the book they claim is holy.
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Re: The moderate religion is ok argument

Post by Beelzebub2 » Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:27 pm

Indeed, confirmation bias at its worst. Most of the folks around me are moderately deluded, moderately conformist, and are moderately imitating moderately adjusted society. Everything in moderation, even stupidity. Mediocrity rules in moderation.

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Re: The moderate religion is ok argument

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:07 pm

Being moderately arrogant, moderately arsonistic, moderately racist or moderately paedophiliac are still not good things. Ditto religion. Moderately believing bollocks is real is still fucking stupid.
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Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Being moderately arrogant, moderately arsonistic, moderately racist or moderately paedophiliac are still not good things. Ditto religion. Moderately believing bollocks is real is still fucking stupid.
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Re: The moderate religion is ok argument

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:09 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Being moderately arrogant, moderately arsonistic, moderately racist or moderately paedophiliac are still not good things. Ditto religion. Moderately believing bollocks is real is still fucking stupid.
I'm moderately impressed by that. :hehe:
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Re: The moderate religion is ok argument

Post by Bella Fortuna » Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:19 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Being moderately arrogant, moderately arsonistic, moderately racist or moderately paedophiliac are still not good things. Ditto religion. Moderately believing bollocks is real is still fucking stupid.
I'm moderately impressed by that. :hehe:
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Re: The moderate religion is ok argument

Post by Thinking Aloud » Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:26 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Being moderately arrogant, moderately arsonistic, moderately racist or moderately paedophiliac are still not good things. Ditto religion. Moderately believing bollocks is real is still fucking stupid.
I'm moderately impressed by that. :hehe:
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Isn't that a bit extreme?

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Post by Bella Fortuna » Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:27 pm

I am only moderately extreme. :levi:
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Re: The moderate religion is ok argument

Post by Thinking Aloud » Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:27 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:I am only moderately extreme. :levi:
I have evidence to the contrary. :levi:

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Re: The moderate religion is ok argument

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:28 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Being moderately arrogant, moderately arsonistic, moderately racist or moderately paedophiliac are still not good things. Ditto religion. Moderately believing bollocks is real is still fucking stupid.
I'm moderately impressed by that. :hehe:
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Re: The moderate religion is ok argument

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:37 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Being moderately arrogant, moderately arsonistic, moderately racist or moderately paedophiliac are still not good things. Ditto religion. Moderately believing bollocks is real is still fucking stupid.
I'm moderately impressed by that. :hehe:
Stinkin' mods. :nono:
I admin it, I'm a mod.
Not a moderate mod though. :hehe:
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