And to believe in lies generally, which is wrong in his opinion.Dr. Pappa wrote:Dawkins also argues that moderate religion teaches people to believe a pretty bland lie, when the truth is far more amazing and wonderful.
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It did.Animavore wrote:I still think my argument captured it best.



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"moderate" religions are those that are afraid to take a more radical stand. They mutate when a loon decides on a schism. Speciation of religion is the reason there are so many types of protestantism. All they need is one more Martin Luther and they're haring off in a (slightly) new direction.
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You either do exactly what your particular holy book of choice tells you to do, or you don't - how can you be a true believer and yet cherry pick out the parts you find reprehensible or downright immoral? Any Xtian worth his/her salt must stone anyone they see picking up sticks on the Sabbath.
Moderate religion is simply choosing the parts of the story that you want to believe based on your personal world-view. Now that's not being religious now is it?
Moderate religion is simply choosing the parts of the story that you want to believe based on your personal world-view. Now that's not being religious now is it?
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This is exactly my point about Merkins. They are selective and extremely ignorant of the contents of the book they claim is holy.pawiz wrote:You either do exactly what your particular holy book of choice tells you to do, or you don't - how can you be a true believer and yet cherry pick out the parts you find reprehensible or downright immoral? Any Xtian worth his/her salt must stone anyone they see picking up sticks on the Sabbath.
Moderate religion is simply choosing the parts of the story that you want to believe based on your personal world-view. Now that's not being religious now is it?
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Indeed, confirmation bias at its worst. Most of the folks around me are moderately deluded, moderately conformist, and are moderately imitating moderately adjusted society. Everything in moderation, even stupidity. Mediocrity rules in moderation.
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Being moderately arrogant, moderately arsonistic, moderately racist or moderately paedophiliac are still not good things. Ditto religion. Moderately believing bollocks is real is still fucking stupid.
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"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" - VoltaireXamonas Chegwé wrote:Being moderately arrogant, moderately arsonistic, moderately racist or moderately paedophiliac are still not good things. Ditto religion. Moderately believing bollocks is real is still fucking stupid.
Dogma is the enemy, not religion, per se. Rationality, genuine empathy and intellectual integrity are anathema to dogma.
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I'm moderately impressed by that.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Being moderately arrogant, moderately arsonistic, moderately racist or moderately paedophiliac are still not good things. Ditto religion. Moderately believing bollocks is real is still fucking stupid.

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Stinkin' mods.Gawdzilla wrote:I'm moderately impressed by that.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Being moderately arrogant, moderately arsonistic, moderately racist or moderately paedophiliac are still not good things. Ditto religion. Moderately believing bollocks is real is still fucking stupid.

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Isn't that a bit extreme?Bella Fortuna wrote:Stinkin' mods.Gawdzilla wrote:I'm moderately impressed by that.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Being moderately arrogant, moderately arsonistic, moderately racist or moderately paedophiliac are still not good things. Ditto religion. Moderately believing bollocks is real is still fucking stupid.
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I have evidence to the contrary.Bella Fortuna wrote:I am only moderately extreme.

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I admin it, I'm a mod.Bella Fortuna wrote:Stinkin' mods.Gawdzilla wrote:I'm moderately impressed by that.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Being moderately arrogant, moderately arsonistic, moderately racist or moderately paedophiliac are still not good things. Ditto religion. Moderately believing bollocks is real is still fucking stupid.
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Not a moderate mod though.Gawdzilla wrote:I admin it, I'm a mod.Bella Fortuna wrote:Stinkin' mods.Gawdzilla wrote:I'm moderately impressed by that.Xamonas Chegwé wrote:Being moderately arrogant, moderately arsonistic, moderately racist or moderately paedophiliac are still not good things. Ditto religion. Moderately believing bollocks is real is still fucking stupid.

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