The Jesus myther nonsense

Post by **Xamonas Chegwé** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:23 am

jamest wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
jamest wrote:
Rum wrote:Well most of this is still just speculation. He may well have existed as a human being and even as a 'teacher' of some sort. What of it? There appear to have been thousands of those. None of them are necessarily the sons of gods.
Either all are, or none. Let's not get stuck on the idea that only a few are. That makes no sense whatsoever.
Either we are all Spartacus, or none of us are. Yep. Makes perfect sense to me.
Spartacus wasn't claiming to be divine. Have a word with yourself for missing the fuckin' obvious.

No. I didn't miss the obvious. The obvious was that you were spouting total bollocks. I merely spouted some bollocks of my own. Thought it was a contest.

Post by **Brian Peacock** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 4:36 am

Stein wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:My question is this. Unless you're a god-botherer, who fucking cares?

It makes no shred of difference to me whether Jeebus H Krusty the Klown was a real preacher or the figment of some millennially-maddened over-fertile imagination. He has no relevance to me either way.
It fucking matters because quacks of all sorts, including unscrupulous fundies, are out to destroy all learning and modern research for all conceivable disciplines. Once creationists, mythers, astrologers, at al, foist their fake narratives on the next generation, it won't matter a damn if religion has by then been flushed down the dumpster. We'll still be fucked, living the lies of those who find it convenient to live a lie: the new powerful, whoever they may be, taking advantage of an imposed ignorance that people like you just laugh off as if it were nothing. Well, if you enjoy being a sucker, than laugh away.

It does fucking matter, and we should fucking care. Complacency in the face of quackery is no option at all.

It's the same if it involves a perfectly normal human rabbi, a planned extermination of six million prisoners, a real landing on the moon, a spontaneous big bang, or a sane perspective on star charts. Phony history is a way of turning whole populations into suckers. You want to be a sucker?

Stein

"Quack!"

Declaring that the advocacy of the historical facts of a myth is somehow protecting (an assumed) historical truth, when really it's merely advocating the acceptance of a myth as fact, sounds like is quakery to me.

"Quack!"

Post by **JimC** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:49 am

jamest wrote:
Rum wrote:Well most of this is still just speculation. He may well have existed as a human being and even as a 'teacher' of some sort. What of it? There appear to have been thousands of those. None of them are necessarily the sons of gods.
Either all are, or none. Let's not get stuck on the idea that only a few are. That makes no sense whatsoever.

Surely the choice is between one or none.

Unless god is a hysterical neurotic, deciding to flood the world with potential sons of god, to make sure at least one does the trick...

Post by **hackenslash** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:08 am

jamest wrote:Spartacus wasn't claiming to be divine.

Neither was Jeebus. It's his fuckwit fan club that claim that.

Post by **Svartalf** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:13 am

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
jamest wrote:
Rum wrote:Well most of this is still just speculation. He may well have existed as a human being and even as a 'teacher' of some sort. What of it? There appear to have been thousands of those. None of them are necessarily the sons of gods.
Either all are, or none. Let's not get stuck on the idea that only a few are. That makes no sense whatsoever.
Either we are all Spartacus, or none of us are. Yep. Makes perfect sense to me.

I'm not Spartacus, I'm Brian.

Post by **Svartalf** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 7:17 am

At any rate, even if there was a Jeebus, he was not the MMessiah, just ask the Jews and check the prophecies (those in OT)... ergo the chretins have it all wrong

Post by **JimC** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:00 am

He was just a naughty boy...

Post by **Rum** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:30 am

Brian: I'm not the Messiah! Will you please listen? I am not the Messiah, do you understand? Honestly!

Girl: Only the true Messiah denies His divinity.

Brian: What? Well, what sort of chance does that give me? All right! I am the Messiah!

Followers: He is! He is the Messiah!

Brian: Now, fuck off!

[silence]

Arthur: How shall we fuck off, O Lord?

Post by **Stein** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 4:25 pm

hackenslash wrote:
jamest wrote:Spartacus wasn't claiming to be divine.
Neither was Jeebus. It's his fuckwit fan club that claim that.

AND THE PROFESSIONAL HISTORIANS TODAY DO

N O T

CLAIM THAT. THEY CLAIM HE IS A NORMAL HUMAN RABBI.

Get it?

Stein

Post by **hackenslash** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:18 pm

What the fuck are you blathering about, idiot?

Post by **laklak** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 6:27 pm

I don't care about Jesus mythers, but people who say Kim Kardashian's ass is fake really PISS ME OFF. Fucknuts.

Post by **jamest** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:32 pm

Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
jamest wrote:
Xamonas Chegwé wrote:
jamest wrote:
Rum wrote:Well most of this is still just speculation. He may well have existed as a human being and even as a 'teacher' of some sort. What of it? There appear to have been thousands of those. None of them are necessarily the sons of gods.
Either all are, or none. Let's not get stuck on the idea that only a few are. That makes no sense whatsoever.
Either we are all Spartacus, or none of us are. Yep. Makes perfect sense to me.
Spartacus wasn't claiming to be divine. Have a word with yourself for missing the fuckin' obvious.
No. I didn't miss the obvious. The obvious was that you were spouting total bollocks. I merely spouted some bollocks of my own. Thought it was a contest.

You win. I can't compete with bollocks that big.

Post by **jamest** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:35 pm

JimC wrote:
jamest wrote:
Rum wrote:Well most of this is still just speculation. He may well have existed as a human being and even as a 'teacher' of some sort. What of it? There appear to have been thousands of those. None of them are necessarily the sons of gods.
Either all are, or none. Let's not get stuck on the idea that only a few are. That makes no sense whatsoever.
Surely the choice is between one or none.

Unless god is a hysterical neurotic, deciding to flood the world with potential sons of god, to make sure at least one does the trick...

The choice is between God being omnipresent and there being no God (because a finite God is an absurd notion). Hence the choice is between everyone being of God, or no one.

Post by **jamest** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:37 pm

Stein wrote:
hackenslash wrote:
jamest wrote:Spartacus wasn't claiming to be divine.
Neither was Jeebus. It's his fuckwit fan club that claim that.
AND THE PROFESSIONAL HISTORIANS TODAY DO

N O T

CLAIM THAT. THEY CLAIM HE IS A NORMAL HUMAN RABBI.

Get it?

Stein

Yay, let's all look to the historians to resolve issues of The Divine.

Post by **Svartalf** » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:49 pm

laklak wrote:I don't care about Jesus mythers, but people who say Kim Kardashian's ass is fake really PISS ME OFF. Fucknuts.

the kim kardasshian you see is 90% the work of very expensive clinics, she'd be a lot less hot if she was her own self

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