Atheist Dogma/Creed

[rachelbean]

Me being an atheist means I don't have a belief in god(s). End of. You can't make me part of your movement or community because of something I don't believe. I don't want a credo or a platform and I don't want any priests. I choose who my community is (shockingly, not all atheists) and what I believe or support, and those things can change if I feel like it. Social justice and human rights are things I support but they have fuck all to do with atheism. For fucks sake it's amazing how people pat themselves on the back for "breaking free from the chains of religion" just so they can make shinier versions

[Rum]

I posted this on the site:

Most of the issues – or the stand you are proposing to take could be labeled liberal or left of centre. My observation is that most atheists in America tend to have this political leaning too. (I am British where atheism seems to be more mainstream).

By taking a politically liberal/leftish approach you will automatically alienate people on the right from what one might call neutral atheism. They tend after all to be rather more religious in the USA.

I’m afraid atheism remains for me as neutral as not believing in fairies or trolls and I think associating it with social issues in this way may well be counterproductive.

[Audley Strange]

Be interesting to see their reaction, except I won't fund extremist thought.

[Robert_S]

The sad sad thing is there's something close to a good point there.

Shouldn't a movement with an agenda make some effort to accommodate all types of people regardless of gender, race or orientation? Shouldn't it try to make sure that nobody is harassed, especially along those lines?

As much as I'm concerned about:

Racism
Sexism
Homophobia
Transphobia
Ableism
Classism
Ageism
Neurotypicalism
Animal welfare
Environmental issues
Political issues (Health care, crime, drug laws)

I'll still cooperate with the unrepentant-factory-farmed-meat-eating, aristocratic, anti-drug SUV driver when it comes to keeping creationism out of the school textbooks and preventing the funneling of the tax money into some damn faith-based initiative that does nothing significant to make the world a better place and is little more than a PR stunt for a megachurch. Just like I'll cooperate with the creationist Christian at the humane society.

i don't think this will fly, but goddammit, beware concentrated power you idealists! It attracts people who love REALLY power and are better at smooth-talking back-stabbing political moves than you can imagine!

[Rum]

I think that's the main point. I agree with a progressive take on most of the issues listed. But so would Quakers, Methodists, a lot of CofE members..Buddhists.

These are not issues one should conflate with atheism.

[JimC]

In my case, atheist is purely an adjective. I refuse to let it define anything else about me other than my lack of belief in any deity. If you want to know what sect I belong to, I am an Ratz!

Ich bien ein Ratzer!

[FBM]

Fuck all that. I'm defined as an atheist because I don't believe in supernatural deities. Fuck PCness and the attempt to mould all atheists into the same set of extended, PC thought police-approved political agendas. If I like, I will refuse to believe in supernatural beings while also eating meat, carrying a gun, pissing on the sidewalk, telling bad rape jokes (Yellowbeard, by gwod) and creating whatever sort of collage of values that I fucking feel like at the moment.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Atheist+...Insane...Rabid...Maniacal?

I've always been wary of identifying myself as an "atheist", anyway. - I hate being pigeon-holed and can't stand labels.
If anyone ever asks about my religious status (which almost never happens) I just say that I'm atheistic...or tell them to mind their own fucking business.
I suppose I support the atheist movement because any other alternative is too horrible to contemplate but I can't see these nutters doing it any good whatsoever. They're as divisive as any religion and just as flaky and can only serve to weaken any any credibility the atheist 'community' has. It's a real step backwards, imo.

I'm "atheistic", rather than "an atheist".

[colubridae]

I don't get what the point is.
Surely, if a society becomes more rational then equal rights and opportunities, etc. will be a natural by-product? Why so many agendas?

These people are fucking mad.

They dont want equal rights. They want this

http://www.womynkind.org/scum.htm

by Valerie Solanas
Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation and destroy the male sex.

It is now technically feasible to reproduce without the aid of males (or, for that matter, females) and to produce only females. We must begin immediately to do so. Retaining the mail has not even the dubious purpose of reproduction. The male is a biological accident: the Y (male) gene is an incomplete X (female) gene, that is, it has an incomplete set of chromosomes. In other words, the male is an incomplete female, a walking abortion, aborted at the gene stage. To be male is to be deficient, emotionally limited; maleness is a deficiency disease and males are emotional cripples.

Now they're picking on the poor postie

[Pappa]

Oh dang! Does this mean that we'll have to kill all the A+ lot as well as the religionist when the First Great Atheist Holy War begins?

[Thinking Aloud]

Oh dang! Does this mean that we'll have to kill all the A+ lot as well as the religionist when the First Great Atheist Holy War begins?

Ho hum, another supposedly rational forum that thinks... etc.

[Azathoth]

Oh dang! Does this mean that we'll have to kill all the A+ lot as well as the religionist when the First Great Atheist Holy War begins?

Nahh just give them all a good raping

[Gawdzilla Sama]

What next? The Atheist Bible?

[Brian Peacock]

It seems that to be an atheist these days, you also has to believe in every social issue that concerns Jen McCreight :

http://freethoughtblogs.com/blaghag/201 ... -the-walk/

This shit's gone too far.

I don't have a belief in any god's and I'm not going to fucking rape you!

Is "Atheism+" the same as "Atheism 2.0" ?

[Robert_S]

A++ Now with classes!