Building the Atheist brand

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Re: Building the Atheist brand

Post by Jesus_of_Nazareth » Sun May 06, 2012 10:51 am

The international symbol of Atheism is.........

A spoon :soup: .
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Re: Building the Atheist brand

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Jesus_of_Nazareth wrote:The international symbol of Atheism is.........

A spoon :soup: .
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Re: Building the Atheist brand

Post by amused » Sun May 06, 2012 3:11 pm

The title of this post is a misnomer then, I did a quickie. I don't see the need for an Organized Atheism either, except for informal places like the forums on the interwebs. It might be cool to see a lot of church buildings converted to secular uses as a place for people to gather just for the social interaction. And I don't want to use any power, especially of the state, to actively destroy the trappings and infrastructure of religion. My thought here was that atheism is more like a subversive acid that corrodes and weakens religious attitudes, and over time the cumulative effect will eventually cause its collapse. Other than that, spoons are good...

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Re: Building the Atheist brand

Post by Hermit » Sun May 06, 2012 3:42 pm

amused wrote:My thought here was that atheism is more like a subversive acid that corrodes and weakens religious attitudes, and over time the cumulative effect will eventually cause its collapse.
Atheism is just a label stuck on people that lack a belief in the existence of a god. In itself it does nothing at all. It is a result of something. Mainly education. Be it paid for directly by the user, or indirectly through governments, education is expensive. This means atheism tends to be a function of affluence. It also means once the global economy goes terminally down the gurgler, conventional religions as well as any other forms of superstitions will experience a resurgence.

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Re: Building the Atheist brand

Post by amused » Sun May 06, 2012 4:55 pm

Seraph wrote:
amused wrote:My thought here was that atheism is more like a subversive acid that corrodes and weakens religious attitudes, and over time the cumulative effect will eventually cause its collapse.
Atheism is just a label stuck on people that lack a belief in the existence of a god. In itself it does nothing at all. It is a result of something. Mainly education. Be it paid for directly by the user, or indirectly through governments, education is expensive. This means atheism tends to be a function of affluence. It also means once the global economy goes terminally down the gurgler, conventional religions as well as any other forms of superstitions will experience a resurgence.

We are the Hollow Men.

This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.
Which is why, from a purely evolutionary survival of offspring point of view, it's worth undermining religion and spreading education so that rational public policies are enacted that prevent the collapse of society.

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Re: Building the Atheist brand

Post by Thumpalumpacus » Sun May 06, 2012 6:51 pm

Irreligious does not automatically mean rational.
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Re: Building the Atheist brand

Post by amused » Sun May 06, 2012 7:15 pm

Thumpalumpacus wrote:Irreligious does not automatically mean rational.
True, but it's a step in the right direction, IMO.

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Re: Building the Atheist brand

Post by Thumpalumpacus » Sun May 06, 2012 9:33 pm

Granted. But if I had a dime for every idiot atheist who was as irrational as those he criticized, I could retire.
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Re: Building the Atheist brand

Post by Jesus_of_Nazareth » Sun May 06, 2012 10:58 pm

Thumpalumpacus wrote:Irreligious does not automatically mean rational.
I think you iz talking about Santa :hehe: .


Will never build Atheism into a brand - as most Atheists don't care about religion....plus it will be like herding cats.

But probably could do with a new name / brand for the minority of Atheists who do care.....something a bit more media freindly / respectable than "Woo Fighters" :hehe: and not so negative as "Militant Atheists".

I favour the term "Spooners" (based around the international Atheist symbol :soup: ).


Would be nice if we could get some sponsorship from Heinz or Campbells :soup: .
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Re: Building the Atheist brand

Post by Hermit » Sun May 06, 2012 11:32 pm

amused wrote:
Seraph wrote:
amused wrote:My thought here was that atheism is more like a subversive acid that corrodes and weakens religious attitudes, and over time the cumulative effect will eventually cause its collapse.
Atheism is just a label stuck on people that lack a belief in the existence of a god. In itself it does nothing at all. It is a result of something. Mainly education. Be it paid for directly by the user, or indirectly through governments, education is expensive. This means atheism tends to be a function of affluence. It also means once the global economy goes terminally down the gurgler, conventional religions as well as any other forms of superstitions will experience a resurgence.

We are the Hollow Men.

This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.
Which is why, from a purely evolutionary survival of offspring point of view, it's worth undermining religion and spreading education so that rational public policies are enacted that prevent the collapse of society.
I was being picky; atheism is not an agency. It's education, among other things, that corrodes and weakens religious attitudes, and atheism may be the result of it. And yeah, atheists are not markedly more rational than theists.
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Re: Building the Atheist brand

Post by Thumpalumpacus » Sun May 06, 2012 11:53 pm

Yeah, I'm just not big on being branded. Cattle are branded; bags of rice are branded; motor oil is branded.

I really don't give a shit what theists think of me. If they're dumb enough to try to pigeonhole me with someone like Maher, that's their problem, not mine. After all, it will be them shocked to learn that not all atheists are that perpetually butthurt.

As far as the minority who do fit into that Maher-category, I think "the Perpetually Butthurt" is as good as descriptor as any, and I intend to keep using it. :)
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Re: Building the Atheist brand

Post by Hermit » Mon May 07, 2012 1:25 am

I don't mind being branded as an atheist at all. Atheism is a lack of belief in the existence of a god. I lack a belief in the existence of a god. The label fits. I am an atheist. What I would object to is if the label was implied to mean that that is all there is to me, or more generally, that all atheists are the same.

Of course the same can be said about theists.
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Re: Building the Atheist brand

Post by Audley Strange » Mon May 07, 2012 5:16 am

The problem with the label Atheist is that one one side you've got people who think that atheists are a cabal of amoral NWO worshipping science cultists who want to enslave humanity and on the other you've got people who think not believing in deities is only part and parcel of Atheist as a political identity. I genuinely don't know which group is the silliest.
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Re: Building the Atheist brand

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon May 07, 2012 11:46 am

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I'm a historian.
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I'm a lover of nature. (One of her lovers, the bitch.)
I'm a cat servant.
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