85 priests accused of abuse...

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andrewclunn wrote:85, just in Ireland? Holy fucking children!
If only there were just 85 .... in the last 20 years, there have been many times that number of accused priests in Ireland. This is just the latest round.
Evidence? And accusations are not convictions. Anybody can accuse a priest of a crime, but the question is whether the crime actually occurred. And how many accusations as compared to how many priests total in Ireland?
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Post by Animavore » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:17 am

tattuchu wrote:I went to a Catholic church when I was little and I was never molested :ddpan:
How do you think I feel? I went to Catholic school, church and boy scouts and I wasn't molested.
I would've become an altar boy too but unfortunately my parents knew what the scumbags are like and wouldn't let me get too involved.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:23 am

Seth wrote:85 out of how many priests total, over 35 years I wonder.
85 caught in this latest round. Over the last centuries, there were more than that.
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Seth wrote:85 out of how many priests total, over 35 years I wonder.
85 caught in this latest round. Over the last centuries, there were more than that.
How many, exactly? Or are you citing ex-recto factoids? C'mon, let's have the names and dates. And when you're finished with that, begin on the list of public school teachers who have molested children. I'll make it easy, you only have to go back 25 years rather than centuries there.
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tattuchu wrote:I went to a Catholic church when I was little and I was never molested :ddpan:
How do you think I feel? I went to Catholic school, church and boy scouts and I wasn't molested.
I would've become an altar boy too but unfortunately my parents knew what the scumbags are like and wouldn't let me get too involved.
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The vast, overwhelming majority of all Catholic children in history have NOT been molested by a priest, a fact that seems to escape just about everyone.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:57 am

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Seth wrote:85 out of how many priests total, over 35 years I wonder.
85 caught in this latest round. Over the last centuries, there were more than that.
How many, exactly? Or are you citing ex-recto factoids? C'mon, let's have the names and dates. And when you're finished with that, begin on the list of public school teachers who have molested children. I'll make it easy, you only have to go back 25 years rather than centuries there.
Fool that you be, you think this makes you right.
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Seth wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Seth wrote:85 out of how many priests total, over 35 years I wonder.
85 caught in this latest round. Over the last centuries, there were more than that.
How many, exactly? Or are you citing ex-recto factoids? C'mon, let's have the names and dates. And when you're finished with that, begin on the list of public school teachers who have molested children. I'll make it easy, you only have to go back 25 years rather than centuries there.
Fool that you be, you think this makes you right.
No, but I know that absent credible evidence, it makes you wrong.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:03 am

Seth wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Seth wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Seth wrote:85 out of how many priests total, over 35 years I wonder.
85 caught in this latest round. Over the last centuries, there were more than that.
How many, exactly? Or are you citing ex-recto factoids? C'mon, let's have the names and dates. And when you're finished with that, begin on the list of public school teachers who have molested children. I'll make it easy, you only have to go back 25 years rather than centuries there.
Fool that you be, you think this makes you right.
No, but I know that absent credible evidence, it makes you wrong.
No, it doesn't. The Church has been hiding this shit for centuries. You don't like it, I don't care.
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Seth wrote:
Animavore wrote:
tattuchu wrote:I went to a Catholic church when I was little and I was never molested :ddpan:
How do you think I feel? I went to Catholic school, church and boy scouts and I wasn't molested.
I would've become an altar boy too but unfortunately my parents knew what the scumbags are like and wouldn't let me get too involved.
Cock blockers :(
The vast, overwhelming majority of all Catholic children in history have NOT been molested by a priest, a fact that seems to escape just about everyone.
Oh good. That makes it all right, then.
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Post by amused » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:06 am

If the goal is to destroy religion and the powerful organizations that promote it, then conflating the evil actions of a few to tar the entire organization is a valid tactic. Dishonest, but valid.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:06 am

Geoff wrote:
Seth wrote:
Animavore wrote:
tattuchu wrote:I went to a Catholic church when I was little and I was never molested :ddpan:
How do you think I feel? I went to Catholic school, church and boy scouts and I wasn't molested.
I would've become an altar boy too but unfortunately my parents knew what the scumbags are like and wouldn't let me get too involved.
Cock blockers :(
The vast, overwhelming majority of all Catholic children in history have NOT been molested by a priest, a fact that seems to escape just about everyone.
Oh good. That makes it all right, then.
Screw the victims, they're in the minority. Seth thinks like this.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:07 am

amused wrote:If the goal is to destroy religion and the powerful organizations that promote it, then conflating the evil actions of a few to tar the entire organization is a valid tactic. Dishonest, but valid.
And, of course, if the system is corrupt enough to cover up molestation for this long, it needs to be destroyed.
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Post by Geoff » Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:08 am

Gawdzilla wrote:
Geoff wrote:
Seth wrote:
Animavore wrote:
tattuchu wrote:I went to a Catholic church when I was little and I was never molested :ddpan:
How do you think I feel? I went to Catholic school, church and boy scouts and I wasn't molested.
I would've become an altar boy too but unfortunately my parents knew what the scumbags are like and wouldn't let me get too involved.
Cock blockers :(
The vast, overwhelming majority of all Catholic children in history have NOT been molested by a priest, a fact that seems to escape just about everyone.
Oh good. That makes it all right, then.
Screw the victims, they're in the minority. Seth thinks like this.
Could be a new Catholic advertising campaign..."See, we didn't rape ALL of them; we're the good guys..."
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Re: 85 priests accused of abuse...

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Geoff wrote:
Seth wrote:
Animavore wrote:
tattuchu wrote:I went to a Catholic church when I was little and I was never molested :ddpan:
How do you think I feel? I went to Catholic school, church and boy scouts and I wasn't molested.
I would've become an altar boy too but unfortunately my parents knew what the scumbags are like and wouldn't let me get too involved.
Cock blockers :(
The vast, overwhelming majority of all Catholic children in history have NOT been molested by a priest, a fact that seems to escape just about everyone.
Oh good. That makes it all right, then.
Does it? I certainly don't think so. I'm surprised you do.

However, it's always worth pointing out that the number of "scumbags" found in the Catholic priesthood is less than 1 percent, while the percentage of "scumbags" in public schools appears to be somewhat larger, given the five million or so kids a year that they molest. It's always useful to put these things in perspective, particularly when some bigot makes false claims about all priests based on the crimes of a few.
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