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Re: Dawkins on Alien Rubbish

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:49 am

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Exi5tentialist wrote:"Alien" is a choice of words that Dawkins deliberately uses because of its ambiguous meaning. Of course, Dawkins doesn't mean "foreign" or "not English" does he? He must mean the other meaning of alien - "foreign" and "not English". What a charmer.
I took it as "alien to science".
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Re: Dawkins on Alien Rubbish

Post by Exi5tentialist » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:22 am

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Exi5tentialist wrote:"Alien" is a choice of words that Dawkins deliberately uses because of its ambiguous meaning. Of course, Dawkins doesn't mean "foreign" or "not English" does he? He must mean the other meaning of alien - "foreign" and "not English". What a charmer.
I took it as "alien to science".
http://www.rationalia.com/forum/viewtop ... ad#p997255
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Knowing the ambiguity, Dawkins could just have said "alien to science".

Let's face it, Dawkins isn't stupid. Islamophobia has become a substitute for racism in our politically correct times, and Dawkins will squeeze every gram of advantage out of such an ambiguity in order to raise his profile.

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Re: Dawkins on Alien Rubbish

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Exi5tentialist wrote:Knowing the ambiguity, Dawkins could just have said "alien to science".

Let's face it, Dawkins isn't stupid. Islamophobia has become a substitute for racism in our politically correct times, and Dawkins will squeeze every gram of advantage out of such an ambiguity in order to raise his profile.
So, you don't think he has a point?
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Post by colubridae » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:34 am

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Crumple wrote:he isn't getting any younger, what better way to leave the show? :naughty:
Getting a heart attack while having sex with three young models? :ask:

But seriously. I'd rather see him dying natural way than being murdered. Even when it might not make any difference to him, it might scare others from criticizing islam.
Well that's why islam works so well.
Instil fear in your critics.

It's a bit early for godwin's law but that's how the brownshirts got such a foothold -intimidate any critics off the board.


Same with exi5 - use your intelelectulal might to intimidate critics.

If you can intimidate your immediate circle into submission, it's easy to fall into the trap of self-belief.
"look at me no-one is succesful at critisizing me, therefore I'm correct".
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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:38 am

Gawdzilla wrote:
Exi5tentialist wrote:Knowing the ambiguity, Dawkins could just have said "alien to science".

Let's face it, Dawkins isn't stupid. Islamophobia has become a substitute for racism in our politically correct times, and Dawkins will squeeze every gram of advantage out of such an ambiguity in order to raise his profile.
So, you don't think he has a point?
There is, of course, a meaning of the word 'alien' other than just 'foreign'. That is 'not of the planet' - i.e. non-human. Given the way that he likes to describe women wearing a niqab as 'bin liners', again dehumanising them to the status of rubbish, I think his latest outburst is entirely consistent with his broadly western-supremacist politics. I'm not surprised you think he has a point.

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Gawdzilla wrote:
Exi5tentialist wrote:Knowing the ambiguity, Dawkins could just have said "alien to science".

Let's face it, Dawkins isn't stupid. Islamophobia has become a substitute for racism in our politically correct times, and Dawkins will squeeze every gram of advantage out of such an ambiguity in order to raise his profile.
So, you don't think he has a point?
There is, of course, a meaning of the word 'alien' other than just 'foreign'. That is 'not of the planet' - i.e. non-human. Given the way that he likes to describe women wearing a niqab as 'bin liners', again dehumanising them to the status of rubbish, I think his latest outburst is entirely consistent with his broadly western-supremacist politics. I'm not surprised you think he has a point.
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Post by Exi5tentialist » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:40 am

colubridae wrote:that's how the brownshirts got such a foothold
Godwin's Law! So predictable!

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colubridae wrote:that's how the brownshirts got such a foothold
Godwin's Law! So predictable!
And such a stupid law it is. Godwin's is a way to toss your hands in the air and say, "This thread is over." It's a way to bail out and blame the other person for one's own failure.
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Gawdzilla wrote:
Exi5tentialist wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Exi5tentialist wrote:Knowing the ambiguity, Dawkins could just have said "alien to science".

Let's face it, Dawkins isn't stupid. Islamophobia has become a substitute for racism in our politically correct times, and Dawkins will squeeze every gram of advantage out of such an ambiguity in order to raise his profile.
So, you don't think he has a point?
There is, of course, a meaning of the word 'alien' other than just 'foreign'. That is 'not of the planet' - i.e. non-human. Given the way that he likes to describe women wearing a niqab as 'bin liners', again dehumanising them to the status of rubbish, I think his latest outburst is entirely consistent with his broadly western-supremacist politics. I'm not surprised you think he has a point.
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Don't you think I have a point, though?

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Gawdzilla wrote: And such a stupid law it is. Godwin's is a way to toss your hands in the air and say, "This thread is over." It's a way to bail out and blame the other person for one's own failure.
This is how Nazi Germany started.

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Exi5tentialist wrote:Don't you think I have a point, though?
Strangely enough, I thought this thread was about Dawkins.
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Exi5tentialist wrote:Don't you think I have a point, though?
Strangely enough, I thought this thread was about Dawkins.
Strangely enough, I was talking about Dawkins

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Re: Dawkins on Alien Rubbish

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Gawdzilla wrote: And such a stupid law it is. Godwin's is a way to toss your hands in the air and say, "This thread is over." It's a way to bail out and blame the other person for one's own failure.
This is how Nazi Germany started.
I didn't know that! I'll have to read me some history some day. Maybe von Papen's memoirs for a starter?
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Exi5tentialist wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Exi5tentialist wrote:Don't you think I have a point, though?
Strangely enough, I thought this thread was about Dawkins.
Strangely enough, I was talking about Dawkins
No, you were talking about your agenda regarding Dawkins.
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Re: Dawkins on Alien Rubbish

Post by Exi5tentialist » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:46 am

Gawdzilla wrote:
Exi5tentialist wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:
Exi5tentialist wrote:Don't you think I have a point, though?
Strangely enough, I thought this thread was about Dawkins.
Strangely enough, I was talking about Dawkins
No, you were talking about your agenda regarding Dawkins.
Then you have a different definition of the word "about" than most people.

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