I could be mistaken but I think that was Martin Luther's argument for why there is no free will, based on scripture. Neuroscientists and theists have a lot of the same ideas.Rum wrote:When I was a Christian in my late teens I recall a discussion about the nature of faith. There was general agreement from those who 'knew' that it was a gift from god.
I was thinking about this earlier and I looked up a few bits in the Bible including this from Romans 12:3 which says " ... God has allotted to each a measure of faith.” Faith is not therefore a personal quality or something to work at, but rather a gift from god.
So - let's get this straight guys - god hates atheists so much he decided not to give any of us the gift of faith....
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The gift of faith - sorry bud you is outa luck!
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Re: The gift of faith - sorry bud you is outa luck!
Why is there a town called Cairo just under 200 miles from you then?Gawdzilla wrote:Actually, I'm completely dry and there are no pyramids anywhere near here.Thinking Aloud wrote:In denial, you are.Gawdzilla wrote:Never had it, never needed it, never wanted it.Thinking Aloud wrote:Non no no nononono... You were a Christian, therefore you had the gift, but you chose to give it away. It's only those who were born as atheists who either weren't given the gift, or who've left it in its box.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Re: The gift of faith - sorry bud you is outa luck!
Bella Fortuna wrote:I didn't think you needed help to be a big dick...FBM wrote:I kept the receipt for my gift of faith and swapped it for a bigger dick.
Wrong.


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Re: The gift of faith - sorry bud you is outa luck!
Plus with the gift you get a bonus: a moped. In Finnish towns, small ones, boys got mopeds at 15 as confirmation gift.
I did not get my moped so had to abandon God too. Finland as well, but that part was not my idea.
I did not get my moped so had to abandon God too. Finland as well, but that part was not my idea.
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But you did keep the nifty accent, didn't you?Tero wrote:Plus with the gift you get a bonus: a moped. In Finnish towns, small ones, boys got mopeds at 15 as confirmation gift.
I did not get my moped so had to abandon God too. Finland as well, but that part was not my idea.
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Some of it. If I had come over earlier, I would not have much.
I was buying a hot dog in Stockholm in swedish and the hotdog vendor wanted to know when I moved from Finland to the USA. I had spoken 5 words.
I was buying a hot dog in Stockholm in swedish and the hotdog vendor wanted to know when I moved from Finland to the USA. I had spoken 5 words.
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My gift of faith came without a user's manual, so after trying to find out how to use the damn thing, and coming up with the result that it probably didn't wort at all, I just droped it in a convenient trash bin.
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Re: The gift of faith - sorry bud you is outa luck!
mistermack wrote:FBM wrote:I kept the receipt for my gift of faith and swapped it for a bigger dick.My dick's near enough. But I would love to have a cunt as well. Where do I apply?JimC wrote:Since I didn't need to do such a swap, I returned the gift to sender...
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Re: The gift of faith - sorry bud you is outa luck!
Pretty damn sharp for a hotdog vendor.Tero wrote:Some of it. If I had come over earlier, I would not have much.
I was buying a hot dog in Stockholm in swedish and the hotdog vendor wanted to know when I moved from Finland to the USA. I had spoken 5 words.

In contrast, I once had a Korean girl ask me if I was from Australia. Wtf.

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"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion."
"We ain't a sharp species. We kill each other over arguments about what happens when you die, then fail to see the fucking irony in that."
"It is useless for the sheep to pass resolutions in favor of vegetarianism while the wolf remains of a different opinion."
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Re: The gift of faith - sorry bud you is outa luck!
She saw something good in you, at least!FBM wrote:Pretty damn sharp for a hotdog vendor.Tero wrote:Some of it. If I had come over earlier, I would not have much.
I was buying a hot dog in Stockholm in swedish and the hotdog vendor wanted to know when I moved from Finland to the USA. I had spoken 5 words.
In contrast, I once had a Korean girl ask me if I was from Australia. Wtf.

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Re: The gift of faith - sorry bud you is outa luck!
Maybe she wanted something good in her.JimC wrote:She saw something good in you, at least!FBM wrote:Pretty damn sharp for a hotdog vendor.Tero wrote:Some of it. If I had come over earlier, I would not have much.
I was buying a hot dog in Stockholm in swedish and the hotdog vendor wanted to know when I moved from Finland to the USA. I had spoken 5 words.
In contrast, I once had a Korean girl ask me if I was from Australia. Wtf.
Yeah well that's just, like, your opinion, man.
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