Behe & Dembski - Winning (plus the Scouts)

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Re: Behe & Dembski - Winning (plus the Scouts)

Post by cowiz » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:53 pm

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stripes4 wrote:Oh my!!! Really? Good grief. And you like living there because....???
You didn't realise this? It's been terribly controversial, that they're basically immune to any sort of legislated equality measures because they're a private organisation. It's shameful. I had terrible qualms about my son joining for that very reason.
And they get free use of public buildings/spaces, all while discriminating
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Post by stripes4 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:53 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:That's true, though (speaking for the atheist part) it's not often lived out in practice - even though they do make references to god :roll: and you can get badges in faith-based shite :roll:

But - my ex was a scoutmaster and he's an atheist... though not of the sort to ever tell anyone. :ask:
:funny: I think they should have an atheist badge, with the spaghetti monster on it!!! :biggrin:
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:54 pm

pawiz wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:
stripes4 wrote:Oh my!!! Really? Good grief. And you like living there because....???
You didn't realise this? It's been terribly controversial, that they're basically immune to any sort of legislated equality measures because they're a private organisation. It's shameful. I had terrible qualms about my son joining for that very reason.
And they get free use of public buildings/spaces, all while discriminating
I know; it makes one's blood boil.
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Post by cowiz » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:55 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:
pawiz wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:
stripes4 wrote:Oh my!!! Really? Good grief. And you like living there because....???
You didn't realise this? It's been terribly controversial, that they're basically immune to any sort of legislated equality measures because they're a private organisation. It's shameful. I had terrible qualms about my son joining for that very reason.
And they get free use of public buildings/spaces, all while discriminating
I know; it makes one's blood boil.
And it makes me a nob too, which is nice...
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Post by stripes4 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:56 pm

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Post by stripes4 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:57 pm

pawiz wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:
pawiz wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:
stripes4 wrote:Oh my!!! Really? Good grief. And you like living there because....???
You didn't realise this? It's been terribly controversial, that they're basically immune to any sort of legislated equality measures because they're a private organisation. It's shameful. I had terrible qualms about my son joining for that very reason.
And they get free use of public buildings/spaces, all while discriminating
I know; it makes one's blood boil.
And it makes me a nob too, which is nice...
I did only say 'a bit of a nob', and I didn't really mean that either :oops:
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Post by MrFungus420 » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:01 pm

pawiz wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:
pawiz wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:
stripes4 wrote:Oh my!!! Really? Good grief. And you like living there because....???
You didn't realise this? It's been terribly controversial, that they're basically immune to any sort of legislated equality measures because they're a private organisation. It's shameful. I had terrible qualms about my son joining for that very reason.
And they get free use of public buildings/spaces, all while discriminating
I know; it makes one's blood boil.
And it makes me a nob too, which is nice...
Hey...don't sell yourself short.

You're a nob without doing that. ;)
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Post by King David » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:11 pm

I'm glad I never joined the scouts. I always thought that they were lame anyway. I never understood why people needed to dress up in goofy short shorts and bandanas to enjoy the outdoors. My family was always big into backpacking so I had plenty of adventures in the mountains, and I did it all while wearing normal, non embarrassing, outdoor clothing.
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Post by Geoff » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:13 pm

Bella Fortuna wrote:
stripes4 wrote:Oh my!!! Really? Good grief. And you like living there because....???
You didn't realise this? It's been terribly controversial, that they're basically immune to any sort of legislated equality measures because they're a private organisation. It's shameful. I had terrible qualms about my son joining for that very reason.
I didn't realise either - my son & daughter were both in the scouts when they were younger, and there was no religious crap at all.
As stripes says, they just got to do interesting things with knots and stuff...useful skills for later in life.
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Post by Animavore » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:18 pm

I was in the CBSI (Catholic Boy Scouts of Ireland). We had to say prayers before meals and everything. And the parish priest used to join us on trips away.

He was one of the nice priests, though. Not one of those rapey ones you hear about.
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Post by cowiz » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:19 pm

Animavore wrote:I was in the CBSI (Catholic Boy Scouts of Ireland). We had to say prayers before meals and everything. And the parish priest used to join us on trips away.

He was one of the nice priests, though. Not one of those rapey ones you hear about.
Sound's a little be rapey to me
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Post by Animavore » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:23 pm

pawiz wrote:
Animavore wrote:I was in the CBSI (Catholic Boy Scouts of Ireland). We had to say prayers before meals and everything. And the parish priest used to join us on trips away.

He was one of the nice priests, though. Not one of those rapey ones you hear about.
Sound's a little be rapey to me
Not all priests are rapey :mod:

Some of them are just gay :hehe:
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Post by Bella Fortuna » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:23 pm

They say prayers at gatherings here. And it's built into their motto.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Scouts ... troversies
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Post by tattuchu » Sun Jun 12, 2011 11:45 pm

I was in the Boy Scouts and I did a lot of cool stuff I never would have been able to do otherwise. It was the marching and drilling and military type shit that I hated. Not too much god stuff back then. It might have been in an oath or two, along with the flag-waving. But nobody gave a shit about stupid oaths anyway. Not us kids leastways.
Funny that there's such a strong prohibition against homosexuality now. Scouting was always thought of as gay. In fact that's eventually why I left, just short of making Eagle Scout. It was all just too fucking gay for me.
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Re: Behe & Dembski - Winning (plus the Scouts)

Post by charlou » Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:49 am

pawiz wrote:
Bella Fortuna wrote:
stripes4 wrote:Oh my!!! Really? Good grief. And you like living there because....???
You didn't realise this? It's been terribly controversial, that they're basically immune to any sort of legislated equality measures because they're a private organisation. It's shameful. I had terrible qualms about my son joining for that very reason.
And they get free use of public buildings/spaces, all while discriminating
So, what to do about it? Legislate against the discrimination? I wouldn't agree with that. I think it's up to parents to show a bit of fortitude and solidarity with their own children, and make a stand against the discrimination ... or show disapproval by leaving, and look to other ways to fulfill the desirable experiences that don't include undesirable elements such as religion, ritual, tradition and discrimination. Might not be a single organisation, but a range of specialised activity providers ...
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