Dawkins accused of cowardice!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Indeed.

Certain parties are like the guy who lives over the garage and plays his stereo loud at three AM. He's not part of the family, but he's so annoying that you can't ignore him. However, the family is split about where to hide the body what to do about him.

[Feck]

T'foot explains why (skip the first minute or so )

[Ronja]

Besides, Lame Craig is so very lame...: http://www.reasonablefaith.org/site/Pag ... _a_archive

[drl2]

Eventually Craig will get caught snorting cocaine out of a male prostitute's rectum just like all the others.

[Hermit]

To begin with, Dawkins has participated in a debate with Lane Craig a couple of years ago. Big mistake, I reckon. How do you argue with someone whose idea of "reasonable faith" leads to a defense of genocide (it's OK if god commands it*) and that you know that this - and everything else in the bible is true is because an inner voice tells you so?**

*"So the problem isn’t that God ended the Canaanites’ lives. The problem is that He commanded the Israeli soldiers to end them. Isn’t that like commanding someone to commit murder? No, it’s not. Rather, since our moral duties are determined by God’s commands, it is commanding someone to do something which, in the absence of a divine command, would have been murder. The act was morally obligatory for the Israeli soldiers in virtue of God’s command, even though, had they undertaken it on their on initiative, it would have been wrong." Link

**"Thus, although arguments and evidence may be used to support the believer's faith, they are never properly the basis of that faith. For the believer, God is not the conclusion of a syllogism; he is the living God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob dwelling within us. How then does the believer know that Christianity is true?He knows because of the self-authenticating witness of God's Spirit who lives within him." Link



Talking to crackpots like that is akin to debating proponents of the stork theory on procreation issues.

I wish Dawkins sticks to his decision, as briefly explained here.

[charlou]

^ This ... Fuck yes.



Edit .. blah, new page.

[Bella Fortuna]

To begin with, Dawkins has participated in a debate with Lane Craig a couple of years ago. Big mistake, I reckon. How do you argue with someone whose idea of "reasonable faith" leads to a defense of genocide (it's OK if god commands it*) and that you know that this - and everything else in the bible is true is because an inner voice tells you so?**

*"So the problem isn’t that God ended the Canaanites’ lives. The problem is that He commanded the Israeli soldiers to end them. Isn’t that like commanding someone to commit murder? No, it’s not. Rather, since our moral duties are determined by God’s commands, it is commanding someone to do something which, in the absence of a divine command, would have been murder. The act was morally obligatory for the Israeli soldiers in virtue of God’s command, even though, had they undertaken it on their on initiative, it would have been wrong." Link

**"Thus, although arguments and evidence may be used to support the believer's faith, they are never properly the basis of that faith. For the believer, God is not the conclusion of a syllogism; he is the living God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob dwelling within us. How then does the believer know that Christianity is true?He knows because of the self-authenticating witness of God's Spirit who lives within him." Link



Talking to crackpots like that is akin to debating proponents of the stork theory on procreation issues.

I wish Dawkins sticks to his decision, as briefly explained here.

Worth quoting to get it on this page.

[Atheist-Lite]

Strange isn't it that Dawkins was always willing to debate with Christians when younger but now as he moves closer to the end of his life he's decided to not give the enemy ammunition by keeping strum? He's said before that he's a cultural Christian and one wonders what 'inner debates' are being played out inside this mortal coil? Maybe he is scared of being found out? Maybe his stance is changing in some deep and meaningful level, all those questions running through one mind and time running out.

[Rum]

Strange isn't it that Dawkins was always willing to debate with Christians when younger but now as he moves closer to the end of his life he's decided to not give the enemy ammunition by keeping strum? He's said before that he's a cultural Christian and one wonders what 'inner debates' are being played out inside this mortal coil? Maybe he is scared of being found out? Maybe his stance is changing in some deep and meaningful level, all those questions running through one mind and time running out.

I would be astonished if this were to be the case, however who knows? Any one of us could have a 'revelation' which would change our view of things!

[Animavore]

Bok-bok-bo-KAWKK!

[Atheist-Lite]

A 6.9 can never be a 7.0 and that is a fact.

[Rum]

A 6.9 can never be a 7.0 and that is a fact.

Well it can be if you add 0.1 to it...

[odysseus]

Eventually Craig will get caught snorting cocaine out of a male prostitute's rectum just like all the others.

Ted Haggard, perchance?...

[charlou]

A 6.9 can never be a 7.0 and that is a fact.

Well it can be if you add 0.1 to it...

I have.

[mistermack]

A 6.9 can never be a 7.0 and that is a fact.

Well it can be if you add 0.1 to it...

I have.

I don't think the difference is important.
The main thing is, is it 6.9 when you need it, and how long does it stay 6.9?
I think the odd 0.1 makes very little difference.

That's what I'm told anyway, but perhaps they were just being kind.