There ain't no fucking god. Get over it.

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Post by Posse Comitatus » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:11 pm

The Mad Hatter wrote:God was mentioned nowhere in the article, a family just lost their daughter, and you're soap boxing the fucking thing?
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Post by AnInconvenientScotsman » Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:26 pm

Them mention of God was meant to be a "There's to much evil in the world for there to be a god" comment, methinks :ask:
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Post by hiyymer » Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:55 am

FBM wrote:
The Mad Hatter wrote:What the fuck does it matter?
The only thing worse than someone automatically turning to religion to console is some automatically turning to anti-theism when a tragedy strikes.
Where the fuck does "automatically" come from? How often do you see me posting in this sub-forum or about anything related to the existence of a deity?
I personally never met a theist who seemed to care about this question. I have heard stories of people's "faith being tested" by bad things happening to them, but as far as I know they're just stories. Basically I don't get why it would make any difference to a theist. Why would anyone think that having a God protects them from the tragedies of life? Rather odd concept.

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Post by FBM » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:29 am

hiyymer wrote:I personally never met a theist who seemed to care about this question. I have heard stories of people's "faith being tested" by bad things happening to them, but as far as I know they're just stories. Basically I don't get why it would make any difference to a theist. Why would anyone think that having a God protects them from the tragedies of life? Rather odd concept.
It is both odd and also precisely what most of them think. Their only defense against the infidel's pointing to needless and random suffering and tragedy is to say something along the lines of 'The Lord works in mysterious ways', an intellectually dishonest evasion. It's old news. This story by chance intersected with something else I was thinking about at the time.
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Post by Robert_S » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:48 am

The Mad Hatter wrote:What the fuck does it matter?
The only thing worse than someone automatically turning to religion to console is some automatically turning to anti-theism when a tragedy strikes.
Thing is, religions have bibles in motel rooms, billboards, churches, people mentioning it all over the place, people naming their children after religious terms...

So, we can't help but have religion on the brain whether we believe in that crap or not. Sometimes we think about other things and juxtapose those with religion.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by maiforpeace » Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:57 am

Robert_S wrote:
The Mad Hatter wrote:What the fuck does it matter?
The only thing worse than someone automatically turning to religion to console is some automatically turning to anti-theism when a tragedy strikes.
Thing is, religions have bibles in motel rooms, billboards, churches, people mentioning it all over the place, people naming their children after religious terms...

So, we can't help but have religion on the brain whether we believe in that crap or not. Sometimes we think about other things and juxtapose those with religion.
I was just thinking about that - lately there's been titles of a movie, and a book, with three words, one of them being a religious one...

Eat, Pray, Love, Women, Food and God, blah, blah, BLECCH!
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Post by Robert_S » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:04 am

maiforpeace wrote: Eat, Pray, Love, Women, Food and God,...
I heard an interview on public radio with the woman who wrote that book. She had some interesting insights in there among the religion and woo. A good mind fucked over by selfish memes. :nono:
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Post by FBM » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:14 am

Robert_S wrote:
maiforpeace wrote: Eat, Pray, Love, Women, Food and God,...
I heard an interview on public radio with the woman who wrote that book. She had some interesting insights in there among the religion and woo. A good mind fucked over by selfish memes. :nono:
Eat Prey, Love Women, Food and...Cod? :ask:
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Re: There ain't no fucking god. Get over it.

Post by charlou » Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:30 am

FBM wrote: This story by chance intersected with something else I was thinking about at the time.
That explains the thread. :tup: (until I read this, I was thinking along the same lines as the mad hatter)
AnInconvenientScotsman wrote:Them mention of God was meant to be a "There's to much evil in the world for there to be a god" comment, methinks :ask:
Evil ... That's anthropomorphising and moralising what are completely naturally occuring events (ice falling and killing a person who happend to be in the way) and which have no moral value whatsoever. The human tendency to do this is a big part of why we've started out to be so superstitious and futilely reactionary, I think.
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