Could a God be the product of evolution?

[Trolldor]

Anything which arises out of natural processes, no matter how ridiculous their capacity, would not be a god, merely a rat with powers. Even if, for whatever reason, they could bend and shape the universe as if it were putty, so long as that ability were generated by natural means then it would not be a god.

[AshtonBlack]

I require evidence of a god or gods before I can even guess it's properties or origins.

[FedUpWithFaith]

Anything which arises out of natural processes, no matter how ridiculous their capacity, would not be a god, merely a rat with powers. Even if, for whatever reason, they could bend and shape the universe as if it were putty, so long as that ability were generated by natural means then it would not be a god.

Not if God and the Universe are one at a deep foundational level (a level deeper than the known physical universe of matter, energy, and fields). Although I believe digital physics is likely to be true, I don't believe in God(s) of course. But here is a website of somebody who believes in both. There's actually a lot of good stuff on his site.

http://www.bottomlayer.com/bottom/DPandMe.html

[colubridae]

I read The God Delusion and Dawkins said it was possible that a supreme being evolved as the product of evolution, therefore not being too complex to have come about by chance. He then says he does not believe this for a moment. He does not justify this latter statement, so why is it impossible for such a thing to have happened somewhere in our huge universe (or in another universe)

Of course you haven't read the god delusion.

He is perfectly clear what he meant by it...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I read The God Delusion and Dawkins said it was possible that a supreme being evolved as the product of evolution, therefore not being too complex to have come about by chance. He then says he does not believe this for a moment. He does not justify this latter statement, so why is it impossible for such a thing to have happened somewhere in our huge universe (or in another universe)

Of course you haven'e read the god delusion.

He is perfectly clear what he meant by it...

Hence my offer of the in-context quote. He's evaporated since then, of course. Hopefully he's headed for a library.

[RuleBritannia]

A single god could not evolve, individuals cannot evolve, only species can. In order for evolution to take place the "weaker" individuals of the species have to reproduce less and the "stronger" have to reproduce more. This would mean "god" would need to be a species not an individual, and the gods would have to be mortal and imperfect and would therefore not be gods.

[virphen]

It isn't inconceivable that there could be some sort of super-species in other dimensions, and our would is simply the ant-farm of one member. It might make a good short story even.

There's not the slightest bit of evidence for it though, so why worry about it?

[RuleBritannia]

It isn't inconceivable that there could be some sort of super-species in other dimensions, and our would is simply the ant-farm of one member. It might make a good short story even.

There's not the slightest bit of evidence for it though, so why worry about it?

They did that at the end of Men in Black and Men in Black II

[Gawdzilla Sama]

It isn't inconceivable that there could be some sort of super-species in other dimensions, and our would is simply the ant-farm of one member. It might make a good short story even.

There's not the slightest bit of evidence for it though, so why worry about it?

So, you don't think all the super-technology recorded in the Hindu sacred texts are signs that such super beings have frequented Earth in the past?

(And don't do so now because the TV really sucks, but if the Mary Tyler Moore Show was to come back that would change, of course.)

[virphen]

So, you don't think all the super-technology recorded in the Hindu sacred texts are signs that such super beings have frequented Earth in the past?

(And don't do so now because the TV really sucks, but if the Mary Tyler Moore Show was to come back that would change, of course.)

I'm not really up with Hindu texts, sacred or otherwise. But mostall (what was I thinking) sacred texts are just signs that people wrote down stuff they made up.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

So, you don't think all the super-technology recorded in the Hindu sacred texts are signs that such super beings have frequented Earth in the past?

(And don't do so now because the TV really sucks, but if the Mary Tyler Moore Show was to come back that would change, of course.)

I'm not really up with Hindu texts, sacred or otherwise. But mostall (what was I thinking) sacred texts are just signs that people wrote down stuff they made up.

But the texts clearly talk about nuclear weapons, flying "cars", laser weapons, and all kinds of things like that.

[virphen]

But the texts clearly talk about nuclear weapons, flying "cars", laser weapons, and all kinds of things like that.

Really? How cool.

Are you sure these are sacred Hindu texts or could they be the novelisation of Star Wars?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

But the texts clearly talk about nuclear weapons, flying "cars", laser weapons, and all kinds of things like that.

Really? How cool.

Are you sure these are sacred Hindu texts or could they be the novelisation of Star Wars?

Some people have claimed that parts of "Star Wars" was stolen from the holy texts. Of course they also claim that little space buddies keep having surprise butt sex with them.

[virphen]

It's not sex, it's research.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

It's not sex, it's research.

Tell it to the Marines.