On why Atheism is a Shite BELIEF System

[pErvinalia]

Seth was there. Just coz you don't accept his word as evidence is no repudiation. You are just being irrational. Atheist.

[JimC]

I've never read anything that Jesus wrote. I believe there's some stuff written by some social engineers 300 years or so later.

Jesus didn't write stuff, he said stuff.

No. People said he said stuff. There is no way of knowing whether or not anyone actually said any of it. Hearsay does not hold water in a court of law for a reason.

True, but we have no other option than judging him by what he was reported to have said. None of which is compelling in the slightest, compared to, for example, the recorded writings of Darwin, Feynman, Enistein...

[pErvinalia]

How do you know that Einstein wrote that stuff? Were you there? Derp derp...

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I've never read anything that Jesus wrote. I believe there's some stuff written by some social engineers 300 years or so later.

Jesus didn't write stuff, he said stuff.

No. People said he said stuff. There is no way of knowing whether or not anyone actually said any of it. Hearsay does not hold water in a court of law for a reason.

True, but we have no other option than judging him by what he was reported to have said. None of which is compelling in the slightest, compared to, for example, the recorded writings of Darwin, Feynman, Enistein...

Enistein was a wanker. Worse than that Hesinebreg, if you ask me!

[JimC]

The Hesinebreg uncertainty principle is all about the inherent fuzziness of English spelling, I believe...

[Xamonas Chegwé]

The Hesinebreg uncertainty principle is all about the inherent fuzziness of English spelling, I believe...

I'm not sure...

[piscator]

I haven't read it, but it looks like another Joo shell game to change the position and momentum of your shekels, just like teh Marxism.

[Brian Peacock]

How do you take your tea, Brian?

How do you take your tea, Brian?

I like me tea like I like my women: hot, cheap, and available on street corners 24 hours a day.

[Svartalf]

I've never read anything that Jesus wrote. I believe there's some stuff written by some social engineers 300 years or so later.

Jesus didn't write stuff, he said stuff.

You were there, were you?

Nobody was there, but all the Jesus stuff we have comes from either self claimed witnesses, or people who took the sayings from the same, there are no gospels attributed to Jesus himself.

[Seth]

Indeed they do. So do you. What makes what you say any more or less credible, rational or important than what they say?

I don't remember claiming that it was.

I didn't say you did, I asked you to explain why it would be, so thanks for the answer, which is obviously "it isn't."

Now, about those feet of clay of yours, they're making quite a mess on the carpet.

[Seth]

His "truths" were simply a mixture of warm and fuzzy pop psychology, plus an astounding degree of ego-driven delusion about being related to the putative creator of the universe...

One more crazy cult leader in a land full of 'em...

You were there, were you?

All one can rely on is the garbled reports from self-interested participants...

I can say the same for any branch of science you yourself cannot (or do not) verify by your own hand. Does the Large Hadron Collider actually collide hadrons? You weren't there so you can't say, and I can say that they are all crazy cult leaders in a land full of 'em and be just exactly as correct as you are in your analysis of the anecdotal reports of the followers of Christ. And then there's the "garbled reports from self-interested participants" in the "global warming" scientific community...

The point being that your ad hominem fallacies prove nothing and provide no useful input on the subject except perhaps to confirm the depth and devotion of your Atheist religious beliefs. You may have no compelling reason to believe those reports and you're free to hold that belief, but your belief does not justify the sort of rude and abusive attitude you demonstrate towards other people who have different beliefs than you do. That's nothing more than rank bigotry and it's beneath the dignity of any rational person. I encourage you to examine your prejudices and biases and amend your behavior because it's people like you who give atheism a bad name.

[Seth]

I've never read anything that Jesus wrote. I believe there's some stuff written by some social engineers 300 years or so later.

Jesus didn't write stuff, he said stuff.

No. People said he said stuff. There is no way of knowing whether or not anyone actually said any of it. Hearsay does not hold water in a court of law for a reason.

True enough, but so what? This isn't a trial and you're not a judge. Your skepticism hardly justifies bad manners.

[Seth]

I've never read anything that Jesus wrote. I believe there's some stuff written by some social engineers 300 years or so later.

Jesus didn't write stuff, he said stuff.

You were there, were you?

Nobody was there, but all the Jesus stuff we have comes from either self claimed witnesses, or people who took the sayings from the same, there are no gospels attributed to Jesus himself.

True. But then again billions of people over the ages claim personal communications with God/Jesus. Why should one not accept that "eyewitness testimony" as being true?

[Svartalf]

Because self induced hallucinations and mass delirium are a likely enough hypothesis to easily trump the possibility of it being true... after all, all witnesses haz driving intersts in their witnessing, and patriot as I am, I'd more likely ascribe Joan of Arc's voices to delusion or manipulation than to actual supernatural communication... same for Teresa of Avila's ecsteasies, or the Marial apparitions in Lourdes or Fatima.

[Seth]

Because self induced hallucinations and mass delirium are a likely enough hypothesis to easily trump the possibility of it being true... after all, all witnesses haz driving intersts in their witnessing, and patriot as I am, I'd more likely ascribe Joan of Arc's voices to delusion or manipulation than to actual supernatural communication... same for Teresa of Avila's ecsteasies, or the Marial apparitions in Lourdes or Fatima.

But you don't know, and you cannot prove your hypothesis even in the slightest, so you're just speculating based on your religious belief that reports of "supernatural" or "divine" events cannot be other than delusions. I seem to recall a bunch of scientists saying the same thing about the notion of flying through the air and the earth revolving around the sun, among other scientific mistakes and errors of fact that are the product of both ignorance, delusion and malicious intent...such as "global warming science."