On why Atheism is a Shite BELIEF System

[Seth]

I choose to call Atheists out on their hypocrisy, unreason, irrationality and intellectual pygmyism.

Teacher teach thyself.

Why on earth do you think I spend all this time hanging around you lot? I learn a lot through participating here.

God, you see, (if he/she/it exists) is not a "natural phenomenon" like the expansion of water when it freezes or nuclear fission.

Assertion.

Well, true enough. I should have qualified all the statements you reply to by saying "provided that God is a sentient being of some sort..."

One cannot put God in a test tube and subject God to chemical analysis.

Assertion.

One cannot create an identical set of circumstances of being in bed and expect the apparition to appear as a feature of physics.

Assertion.

God, if God exists, is an intelligent being who can choose to appear or not appear, or do this or that more than once, whenever he/she/it darned well pleases.

Assertion.

Correct. I'll rephrase the first part: "If God exists as an intelligent being..."

It may please God not to allow Atheists to gather physical evidence of his existence such as protoplasm or DNA samples or video recordings or anything else that might constitute objective scientific proof of God's existence.

Assertion.

No, hypothesis.

Why God might do so is not really relevant. What's relevant is that as a necessarily sentient being of whatever nature...

Assertion.

Agreed. See above.

...God can do as God pleases with respect to providing YOU with objective scientific evidence of his/her/its existence without it being even rationally arguable that he/she/it does not exist!

Assertion.

Not really. More of a parable or metaphor explaining why you might not be aware of evidence of God's existence.

The argument from definition: If God existed he/she/it would be an unknowable, unmeasurable, all powerful, sentient being beyond the bounds of physics and natural laws that could reveal itself to whoever it chose.

But I'm not making that argument. It is not necessary for God to have all of the attributes you list in order for God to deny you the ability to scientifically detect, measure, quantify and describe God. All God has to be able to do is avoid your scrutiny, either by specific intent or merely by being unknown (but not necessarily unknowable) to you.

The fact that atheists don't see evidence for God is therefore because God hasn't chosen to reveal itself to them

That's certainly one of the possible explanations, but it's not necessarily a "therefore" absolute.

--a fact which atheists must be brought to accept (presuming one's conclusion in the process)

Rational individuals ought to be rational.

--and when atheists don't acknowledge as evidence assertions about and for God they need Seth to call them out on their hypocrisy, unreason, irrationality and intellectual pygmyism. Here endeth the lesson.

Now, about all those strawmen you've just erected....Pshaw!

[Seth]

His "truths" were simply a mixture of warm and fuzzy pop psychology, plus an astounding degree of ego-driven delusion about being related to the putative creator of the universe...

One more crazy cult leader in a land full of 'em...

You were there, were you?

Are you really stooping yourself to the Ken Ham level of argumentation?

I never expected that.

No one EXPECTS the Inquisition!

I'm merely mocking your display of religious fervor and faith.

[Seth]

I've never read anything that Jesus wrote. I believe there's some stuff written by some social engineers 300 years or so later.

Jesus didn't write stuff, he said stuff.

You were there, were you?

...so they say.

[Animavore]

His "truths" were simply a mixture of warm and fuzzy pop psychology, plus an astounding degree of ego-driven delusion about being related to the putative creator of the universe...

One more crazy cult leader in a land full of 'em...

You were there, were you?

Are you really stooping yourself to the Ken Ham level of argumentation?

I never expected that.

No one EXPECTS the Inquisition!

I'm merely mocking your display of religious fervor and faith.

Which display of religious fervour and faith?

[Animavore]

I've never read anything that Jesus wrote. I believe there's some stuff written by some social engineers 300 years or so later.

Jesus didn't write stuff, he said stuff.

You were there, were you?

...so they say.

They say lots of things.

[Seth]

I've never read anything that Jesus wrote. I believe there's some stuff written by some social engineers 300 years or so later.

Jesus didn't write stuff, he said stuff.

You were there, were you?

...so they say.

They say lots of things.

Indeed they do. So do you. What makes what you say any more or less credible, rational or important than what they say?

[JimC]

His "truths" were simply a mixture of warm and fuzzy pop psychology, plus an astounding degree of ego-driven delusion about being related to the putative creator of the universe...

One more crazy cult leader in a land full of 'em...

You were there, were you?

All one can rely on is the garbled reports from self-interested participants...

[Animavore]

Jesus didn't write stuff, he said stuff.

You were there, were you?

...so they say.

They say lots of things.

Indeed they do. So do you. What makes what you say any more or less credible, rational or important than what they say?

I don't remember claiming that it was.

[Brian Peacock]

[JimC]

How do you take your tea, Brian?

[pErvinalia]

I've never read anything that Jesus wrote. I believe there's some stuff written by some social engineers 300 years or so later.

Jesus didn't write stuff, he said stuff.

You were there, were you?

[piscator]

"Seth. can I borrow your petard?"
"Hurrpde durpdee doodly doo! Why sure, friend Animavore, here it is! Whatcha need it for?"
...

[pErvinalia]

Jesus didn't write stuff, he said stuff.

You were there, were you?

...so they say.

They say lots of things.

Indeed they do. So do you. What makes what you say any more or less credible, rational or important than what they say?

You really are an idiot. You just got caught with the same idiotic ploy you tried to pull on JimC. Don't you even think about the consequences of what you post? You just say anything that suits at the time, without any thought to how you are going to look like a fool later when it is turned back around on to you.

[pErvinalia]

"Seth. can I borrow your petard?"
"Hurrpde durpdee doodly doo! Why sure, friend Animavore, here it is! Whatcha need it for?"
...

He really is fucking clueless, isn't he?

[Xamonas Chegwé]

I've never read anything that Jesus wrote. I believe there's some stuff written by some social engineers 300 years or so later.

Jesus didn't write stuff, he said stuff.

No. People said he said stuff. There is no way of knowing whether or not anyone actually said any of it. Hearsay does not hold water in a court of law for a reason.