Are People Who Believe in God Stupid?

[Coito ergo sum]

For some people there's a difference between "believe" and "think it is true".

I see little difference, if any. If I think something is true, then I believe it. However, I suppose the "believe" word might connote faith, as in "reasonless" belief, and "think" tends to imply that someone actually reasoned....

[Chuck Jones]

Coitu...I mean coito...

Ok, what I believe in is a creator, although not a creator-out-of-nothing, as is traditionally thought of as being a creator. What I believe in is a manifestor, ie the universe is a manifestation of a conscious manifestor. So, what I beliebve in is both a "creator" and conscious. Surely that counts as a god, doesn't it? If not, I don't mind, but I call it god, because I can't think of anything else to call it. You do realise that within christianity, islam and other religions, there are panentheistic traditions too.

[cowiz]

Coitu...I mean coito...

Ok, what I believe in is a creator, although not a creator-out-of-nothing, as is traditionally thought of as being a creator. What I believe in is a manifestor, ie the universe is a manifestation of a conscious manifestor. So, what I beliebve in is both a "creator" and conscious. Surely that counts as a god, doesn't it? If not, I don't mind, but I call it god, because I can't think of anything else to call it. You do realise that within christianity, islam and other religions, there are panentheistic traditions too.

Can anyone translate wibble? Babelfish seems not to work on this.

[Robert_S]

For some people there's a difference between "believe" and "think it is true".

I see little difference, if any. If I think something is true, then I believe it. However, I suppose the "believe" word might connote faith, as in "reasonless" belief, and "think" tends to imply that someone actually reasoned....

Does say, Karen Armstrong think there really exists a god in any sense that is relevant to anything in the universe except on an emotional level?

[charlou]

Now this is getting interesting ...

[Robert_S]

Coitu...I mean coito...

Ok, what I believe in is a creator, although not a creator-out-of-nothing, as is traditionally thought of as being a creator. What I believe in is a manifestor, ie the universe is a manifestation of a conscious manifestor. So, what I beliebve in is both a "creator" and conscious. Surely that counts as a god, doesn't it? If not, I don't mind, but I call it god, because I can't think of anything else to call it. You do realise that within christianity, islam and other religions, there are panentheistic traditions too.

Can anyone translate wibble? Babelfish seems not to work on this.

Not a god, sorry, doesn't qualify. Yooz an atheist!!! Now make a sock puppet and troll yourself.

[Chuck Jones]

Coitu...I mean coito...

Ok, what I believe in is a creator, although not a creator-out-of-nothing, as is traditionally thought of as being a creator. What I believe in is a manifestor, ie the universe is a manifestation of a conscious manifestor. So, what I beliebve in is both a "creator" and conscious. Surely that counts as a god, doesn't it? If not, I don't mind, but I call it god, because I can't think of anything else to call it. You do realise that within christianity, islam and other religions, there are panentheistic traditions too.

Can anyone translate wibble? Babelfish seems not to work on this.

I speak a very rare dialect of wibble. I doubt you'll find any trustworthy translation. Sorry.

Hi, Charlou.

[Feck]

Kabbalists and Gnostics it's still a bunch of hippy Woo even if it does have some history .

[Chuck Jones]

Kabbalists and Gnostics it's still a bunch of hippy Woo even if it does have some history .

So let them be happy in their woo. You never know, they might help you out if you're in a spot of bother. Just be nice to people, regardless of their beliefs.

[Tero]

I don't remember if I answered yet. Them godpeople are confused. They confuse feelings with god. They have too many feelings. Some pills might help.

[Chuck Jones]

I don't remember if I answered yet. Them godpeople are confused. They confuse feelings with god. They have too many feelings. Some pills might help.

Tero, you're a 56 year old man. Don't say things like that, be mature.

[Don't Panic]

Coitu...I mean coito...

Ok, what I believe in is a creator, although not a creator-out-of-nothing, as is traditionally thought of as being a creator. What I believe in is a manifestor, ie the universe is a manifestation of a conscious manifestor. So, what I beliebve in is both a "creator" and conscious. Surely that counts as a god, doesn't it? If not, I don't mind, but I call it god, because I can't think of anything else to call it. You do realise that within christianity, islam and other religions, there are panentheistic traditions too.

Can anyone translate wibble? Babelfish seems not to work on this.

Pop some underpants on your head and stick a pencil up each nostril and all will become clear.

[dj357]

Coming into the discussion late, as far as the OP goes, they are only stupid insofar as they have fallen prey to the inherent leanings of the human mind to see patterns where none exist. Which I wouldn't call stupid, merely ignorant of the facts.

I was watching the debate last night at La Ciudad de las Ideas between Hitch / Harris / Dennett and Boteach / D'Souza / Taleb and predictably Dinesh D'Souza's ridiculous reasoning that there is evidence for God, or the afterlife in the case of that particular discussion, is based on sheer ignorance of the reality of the universe and a complete misunderstanding of how science views that evidence and, by extension, the universe.

[charlou]

Hi, Charlou.

Hi, Chuck.

[Chuck Jones]

Coming into the discussion late, as far as the OP goes, they are only stupid insofar as they have fallen prey to the inherent leanings of the human mind to see patterns where none exist. Which I wouldn't call stupid, merely ignorant of the facts.

I was watching the debate last night at La Ciudad de las Ideas between Hitch / Harris / Dennett and Boteach / D'Souza / Taleb and predictably Dinesh D'Souza's ridiculous reasoning that there is evidence for God, or the afterlife in the case of that particular discussion, is based on sheer ignorance of the reality of the universe and a complete misunderstanding of how science views that evidence and, by extension, the universe.

Theists know stuff that you don't. You're ignorant, theists are clever. You shut up now.