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Disappointment

Post by Mousy » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:45 pm

I wasn't really sure whether to put this in the literature forum or merely the pub, but I decided to post it here because the resounding theme is Christianity and my disappointment to have encountered it again (I'm doing that a lot lately, aren't I?).
I recently re-read a childhood book of mine, Little White Horse, just because I saw it on my shelf and seemed to remember it being a pleasant read. I read the whole thing again, and while I enjoyed the charming setting and so on, I didn't bank on a big part of the book that I had apparently forgotten all about, or simply not paid much heed to/noticed the first time I read it - the resounding Christian messages within. :ddpan: I almost wish I hadn't re-read it now, I was happy just remembering it as a pretty book.

The author, Goudge, was deeply Christian, which didn't dawn on me at all until this time I read it. There were lavish descriptions of church ceremonies. One character was described as, 'that terrible thing, an atheist'. He was happily converted and ended up being the most preachy character in the book after a bonk on the head let him 'see sense'.
The little girl who was the main character gave back some land to god.
Talk of the afterlife, sins, etc etc etc.

It was very sad to find all this rubbish in a book that I remembered being merely a fantasy story about a lion, a unicorn and a little girl.
Now, I skip songs if they mention Jesus. I became extremely annoyed when it dawned on me that Aslan in the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe is a thinly veiled allegory for Jesus. Why is my childhood being tainted? :cry:

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Post by Mousy » Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:51 pm

Oh yeah, and I never realised how often the author used the word 'ejaculated' instead of 'exclaimed' or something. IT WAS A LOT.

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Post by Feck » Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:13 pm

Mousy wrote:Oh yeah, and I never realised how often the author used the word 'ejaculated' instead of 'exclaimed' or something. IT WAS A LOT.

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Post by Robert_S » Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:06 pm

Maybe you can look up the pagan myths that the followers of the Joe Zombie ripped off.
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Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:48 am

Mousy wrote: One character was described as, 'that terrible thing, an atheist'. He was happily converted and ended up being the most preachy character in the book after a bonk on the head let him 'see sense'.
Hmm... So the atheist character becomes a christian following brain-damage. Sounds about right! :hehe:
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Post by Rum » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:09 am

I had the same experience with C.S. Lewis' books. People may not be aware but besides the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe series he wrote a number of quite good science fiction books (Out of the Silent Planet etc). I loved them as a kid - the were really imaginative and full of wonder. Later on in my late 20s I re-read some of them and suddenly realised how completely Christian and propaganda like they all were, including the kids books. It spoilt all of them for me, even though I had not as yet settled on an atheistic outlook.

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Post by Cormac » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:31 am

Rum wrote:I had the same experience with C.S. Lewis' books. People may not be aware but besides the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe series he wrote a number of quite good science fiction books (Out of the Silent Planet etc). I loved them as a kid - the were really imaginative and full of wonder. Later on in my late 20s I re-read some of them and suddenly realised how completely Christian and propaganda like they all were, including the kids books. It spoilt all of them for me, even though I had not as yet settled on an atheistic outlook.
Yep. Lewis had great story writing and telling skills, unfortunately spoiled by his rabid Christianity. Good stories spoiled
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Re: Disappointment

Post by Geoff » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:46 am

Rum wrote:I had the same experience with C.S. Lewis' books. People may not be aware but besides the Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe series he wrote a number of quite good science fiction books (Out of the Silent Planet etc). I loved them as a kid - the were really imaginative and full of wonder. Later on in my late 20s I re-read some of them and suddenly realised how completely Christian and propaganda like they all were, including the kids books. It spoilt all of them for me, even though I had not as yet settled on an atheistic outlook.
Yep, same here. I never noticed the allegories at the time, in part because I didn't know much about the Christian stories anyway. I just enjoyed them as good kids' stories. There again, as a child I never really realised that some people thought the bible stories were true...I always mentally put Noah's Ark in the same fiction category as the Marvel comics, and just assumed everyone else did the same.
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Re: Disappointment

Post by Twoflower » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:52 am

I use to love The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe series. I didn't realize it was religious based until I was older, and it ruined them for me.
I'm wild just like a rock, a stone, a tree
And I'm free, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I flow, just like a brook, a stream, the rain
And I fly, just like a bird up in the sky
And I'll surely die, just like a flower plucked
And dragged away and thrown away
And then one day it turns to clay
It blows away, it finds a ray, it finds its way
And there it lays until the rain and sun
Then I breathe, just like the wind the breeze that blows
And I grow, just like a baby breastfeeding
And it's beautiful, that's life

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