Is Christian Evangelism a threat to our way of life?

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Re: Is Christian Evangelism a threat to our way of life?

Post by Svartalf » Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:19 pm

Well, if god exists, then we have a case for all the others existing too, and since many of them produced stronger magicians than the hebrew one, and were less douchebaggy to boot, the only serious reason to obey the chretin one is because you let his followers browbeat you into obedience after letting them force on you their delusion that it's the only one. which it isn't, unless you're a Jew who wants to stay true to his folk's tradition.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:24 pm

"God" isn't the problem, it's a symptom. The problem is people who use a god or gods to try and control what other people do and/or think.
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Post by Ayaan » Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:14 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:"God" isn't the problem, it's a symptom. The problem is people who use a god or gods to try and control what other people do and/or think.
:this: What people believe is their own business. However, they should not be allowed to try to force their dogma on those outside of their given belief system. I think there are enough examples in both the past and present to show what happens when a given religion also has political authority - the Middle Ages, the Protestant Reformation, a huge chunk of the Middle East today.
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Post by Robert_S » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:09 pm

If the moderate, easy going Christians want to not be be painted in th same broad brush strokes along with the nutjobs and hatemongers, then they can fucking go and reform Christianity themselves. They can go send missionaries of moderation and non-literalism to those Jesus Camp Christians. They need to go out and protest in front of the creationism museums and ask that those "Answers in Genesis" infomercials be taken off the air.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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Robert_S wrote:If the moderate, easy going Christians want to not be be painted in th same broad brush strokes along with the nutjobs and hatemongers, then they can fucking go and reform Christianity themselves. They can go send missionaries of moderation and non-literalism to those Jesus Camp Christians. They need to go out and protest in front of the creationism museums and ask that those "Answers in Genesis" infomercials be taken off the air.
Why should they? They are not responsible for the actions of evangelical nutjobs and hatemongers, any more than you are responsible for the actions of evangelical atheist hatemongers and nutjobs who paint all Christians with the same broad brush strokes of intolerance, bigotry and hatred.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:19 pm

Seth wrote:
Robert_S wrote:If the moderate, easy going Christians want to not be be painted in th same broad brush strokes along with the nutjobs and hatemongers, then they can fucking go and reform Christianity themselves. They can go send missionaries of moderation and non-literalism to those Jesus Camp Christians. They need to go out and protest in front of the creationism museums and ask that those "Answers in Genesis" infomercials be taken off the air.
Why should they? They are not responsible for the actions of evangelical nutjobs and hatemongers, any more than you are responsible for the actions of evangelical atheist hatemongers and nutjobs who paint all Christians with the same broad brush strokes of intolerance, bigotry and hatred.
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Re: Is Christian Evangelism a threat to our way of life?

Post by Robert_S » Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:42 pm

Seth wrote:
Robert_S wrote:If the moderate, easy going Christians want to not be be painted in th same broad brush strokes along with the nutjobs and hatemongers, then they can fucking go and reform Christianity themselves. They can go send missionaries of moderation and non-literalism to those Jesus Camp Christians. They need to go out and protest in front of the creationism museums and ask that those "Answers in Genesis" infomercials be taken off the air.
Why should they? They are not responsible for the actions of evangelical nutjobs and hatemongers, any more than you are responsible for the actions of evangelical atheist hatemongers and nutjobs who paint all Christians with the same broad brush strokes of intolerance, bigotry and hatred.
I'm quite tolerant of Christians, but I'll not pretend to take their beliefs seriously any more. I certainly hate very few Christians and am quite selective with my hatred. Bigoted? I've been around all stripes of Christians all my life, I know they do good as well as harm.

I would think that one of the main objectives of Christianity would be to educate the general public. If there are Christians preaching a destructive version of the gospel, like say prosperity gospel, or whatever Rev. Phelps type of hatred is; then it might just be possible that countering that type message would be a priority. It would certainly be a great PR move, if not a moral imperative. I just have a hard time someone who actually believes would think they should stand by and do nothing when the Holy word is being perverted.
What I've found with a few discussions I've had lately is this self-satisfaction that people express with their proffessed open mindedness. In realty it ammounts to wilful ignorance and intellectual cowardice as they are choosing to not form any sort of opinion on a particular topic. Basically "I don't know and I'm not going to look at any evidence because I'm quite happy on this fence."
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