The Tenets of Tolerism™

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Re: The Tenets of Tolerism™

Post by camoguard » Fri May 06, 2011 1:34 pm

Seth wrote:
camoguard wrote:That absence of evidence part is pure bullshit. Absence of evidence is absence of continuing any line of dialog about whatever it is you think the evidence would suggest. So positive views with absent evidence should be discarded.
So, we should discard every single cosmological theory that exists today? Because not one of them has any actual critically robust evidence proving them true. They all get back to the Big (something) and their theories, and their math, all fall apart and they dive into wild speculation.

Be careful what you wish for.
What I wish for doesn't have the consequences you predict. I don't remember providing a blank check for Cosmological theories. I wasn't about to start now.

However, in defense of what I think of cosmologists and speculative scientific theories, those theories are used in an effort to explain what we have seen and to predict where we will find new discovers. For an example by analogy, with the rise of the evolution theories, we found that fused chromosome in humans. I think you sometimes argue that science doesn't have an absolute comprehensive grasp of reality and we're all like "so. Science is the technique for securing our grasp of the reality we can see." It's not a big T Truth. And as an atheist skeptic type, I'm not inclined to accept big T Truths anyway. There is a reality to know everything about but knowing everything simply doesn't happen. Cosmology is an awesome subject. I hope those scientists keep on keeping on with their scientific selves.

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Re: The Tenets of Tolerism™

Post by Seth » Fri May 06, 2011 6:01 pm

camoguard wrote:
Seth wrote:
camoguard wrote:That absence of evidence part is pure bullshit. Absence of evidence is absence of continuing any line of dialog about whatever it is you think the evidence would suggest. So positive views with absent evidence should be discarded.
So, we should discard every single cosmological theory that exists today? Because not one of them has any actual critically robust evidence proving them true. They all get back to the Big (something) and their theories, and their math, all fall apart and they dive into wild speculation.

Be careful what you wish for.
What I wish for doesn't have the consequences you predict. I don't remember providing a blank check for Cosmological theories. I wasn't about to start now.
Did you issue one for religion? If so, why? The point being that your statement "positive views with absent evidence should be discarded" is poorly thought out.
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