Jesus Hates Taxes

[Seth]

This calumny

You're much more convincing when you type words like "estopple".

I keep hoping he'll write a suicide note.

I am. It'll be placed on your nightstand, right next to your mysteriously lifeless body....

[Gawdzilla Sama]

This calumny

You're much more convincing when you type words like "estopple".

I keep hoping he'll write a suicide note.

I am. It'll be placed on your nightstand, right next to your mysteriously lifeless body....

Bring it.

[MrJonno]

The nice relating to this word parts of christianity are pure socialism and wealth distribution, the rest is just nasty superstition and death/pain worshiping

[MrJonno]

Tolerism, unless Seth had written lots of different things under different names is generally an ideology that thinks people are too tolerant of things they shouldnt be tolerant off and seems to have been around for a while. Its something of interest to people across the spectrum Not sure you can trademark any philosophy

[Hermit]

Tolerism, unless Seth had written lots of different things under different names is generally an ideology that thinks people are too tolerant of things they shouldnt be tolerant off and seems to have been around for a while.

Well, that's part of Seth's religion, and yes, the idea has been around before Seth was old enough to shit in his nappies. For instance, relatively recently (The Open Society and its Enemies, vol2, 1945) Karl Popper wrote:

• Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them… We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law

The problem with that principle is that, had it always been adhered to, capitalism would never have superseded feudalism, and the British colonies that were to become the US of A would have remained shackled to the British empire.

[MrJonno]

I don't think its the tolerism (not a TM) that he is refering too. I thought in terms of how tolerate should you be to people who are not tolerate. Ie those who don't believe in democracy and use to to try to abolish it, or religious nuts who take advantage of freedoms to try restrict other peoples actions. Its not neccessary black or white.

Decent societies have a wide range of acceptable ie legal behaviour but its not unlimited

[Hermit]

I thought in terms of how tolerate should you be to people who are not tolerate.

That is a moot point because most the time people are not tolerant when it comes down to tin tacks in regard to ideology. Feudalism/theocracy, capitalism and communism have one thing in common: They all say they strive to maximise human well-being. Trouble is, neither the notion of each of what constitutes 'well-being' nor their means of achieving it can be reconciled with any other. Hence many of the innumerable revolutions and rebellions. Intolerance is unavoidable. In order to get rid of feudalism, capitalists had to kill any royalty and their minions that would not capitulate, and the same is going to happen when communism attempts to overcome the capitalist oligarchy and its supporters. No quarter is given in either situation by either side. It's a case of "surrender or die", and too often "surrender and die". Toleration has to be limited.

There is nothing original in Seth's religion, but then I have not seen anything - apart from his hopefully jocular use of the trademark symbol - where he claimed it was.

[MrJonno]

Democracy is different to those other ideologies as it actually encourages dissent, in fact you have a mini-revolution ever few years with elections. However permitted dissent isnt unlimited if its likely to prevent those electoral revolutions

[Hermit]

permitted dissent isnt unlimited

Exactly.

[egbert]

Democracy is different to those other ideologies as it actually encourages dissent, in fact you have a mini-revolution ever few years with elections. However permitted dissent isnt unlimited if its likely to prevent those electoral revolutions

Isn't "permitted dissent" an oxymoron?