Creationists have run out of ideas.

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Creationists have run out of ideas.

Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:25 pm

The Scopes Strategy: Creationists Try New Tactics to Promote Anti-Evolutionary Teaching in Public Schools

Under the guise of "academic freedom" creationists are co-opting some old heroes of the fight to teach evolution in the classroom for their anti-science campaign

By Lauri Lebo | February 28, 2011


Now, more than 80 years after the famous "Scopes Monkey Trial" in Tennessee, creationism proponents are pushing for state legislation there that could make it easier for teachers to bring unscientific ideas back into the science classroom in public schools. To bolster their cause, the backers of the new bills are invoking none other than teacher John Scopes, the trial's pro-evolution defendant, as an icon of independent thinking.

"…[T]oday's evolutionary scientists have become the modern-day equivalents of those who tried to silence Rhea County schoolteacher John Scopes for teaching evolution in 1925, by limiting even an objective discussion of the scientific strengths and weaknesses of evolutionary theory," David Fowler, head of the Family Action Council of Tennessee and chief lobbyist behind Tennessee's proposed anti-evolution bill, wrote recently in an op–ed in the Chattanoogan.

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Post by beige » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:38 pm

:think:
In the best laid plans of history lie the ruins of the past
And a chronicle of suffering shows the mythic pall they cast
To believe is true religion, but to see is truth at last
Oh no, too late to hold a trial, time doesn't wait for the watchmaker's dial

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Re: Creationists have run out of ideas.

Post by klr » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:40 pm

Did they ever have ideas (at least good ones) in the first place?
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:54 pm

beige wrote: :think:
They trying to make Scopes into a hero of the "Teach the Controversy" stupidity.
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Post by Tero » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:44 pm

Kind of like politics. R say lower taxes, fuck the poor. D want to tax the rich for exploiting the poor with low wages.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:56 pm

Tero wrote:Kind of like politics. R say lower taxes, fuck the poor. D want to tax the rich for exploiting the poor with low wages.
If 2% of the population could provide $17,000,000,000 for the country, essentially without feeling it, while 48% would have to reduce spending, further hurting the economy, at the same tax rate, the issue would seem to be clear. However, the Rethugnigans' owners don't want to give up a single penny, so they order their puppets to fight cancellation of the tax breaks.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:54 pm

Follow up "in-dept study" from SciAm.
New Challenges for Evolution Education

Five years after the Dover trial pushed intelligent design out of public school classrooms, how has evolution instruction fared?
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Post by Tero » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:05 am

Gawdzilla, the point was, they are also so predictable. Just once lets see Republicans sponsor free birthcontrol for welfare moms with many kids. Heck, I would pay them 5000 dollars to have the tubes tied after the second kid. Just once, lets see Democrats cut some entitlement: This entitlement here is just money for lawyers, lets just give these people a bigger social security check, no lawyers needed.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:08 am

Tero wrote:Gawdzilla, the point was, they are also so predictable. Just once lets see Republicans sponsor free birthcontrol for welfare moms with many kids. Heck, I would pay them 5000 dollars to have the tubes tied after the second kid. Just once, lets see Democrats cut some entitlement: This entitlement here is just money for lawyers, lets just give these people a bigger social security check, no lawyers needed.
Why is "entitlement" such a buzz word?
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Post by Tero » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:35 am

Its where the fat cat money goes, into the pockets of godless people and welfare bums. I heard it on Fox.

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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:36 am

Tero wrote:Its where the fat cat money goes, into the pockets of godless people and welfare bums. I heard it on Fox.
Well then, it muss be twu.
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Post by Tero » Wed Mar 02, 2011 1:45 am

Taxes cause abortion and atheism, too.

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