Pope Benedict XVI sees 'aggressive secularism' in Spain

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Pope Benedict XVI sees 'aggressive secularism' in Spain

Post by klr » Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:08 pm

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Pope Benedict XVI has warned of an "aggressive anti-clericalism" in Spain which he said was akin to that experienced during the 1930s.*

He arrived in the pilgrimage city of Santiago de Compostela at the beginning of a two-day visit to Spain.

"The clash between faith and modernity is happening again, and it is very strong today," he told reporters on the plane, quoted by AFP news agency.

He is due to celebrate an open-air mass and then travel to Barcelona on Sunday.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11703708

*Odd, I didn't know they were back to massacring priests and nuns ... :what:

And as a counter-point, here's a related opinion/background piece from the Beeb:
Catholic Church in Spain fights Franco-era image

Just inside the ancient city walls of Toledo, the church of Santiago el Mayor is still busy on Sundays.

Whilst one priest says Mass, another hears confession in a booth at the back. There are several services in a row but the congregation is shrinking, even in this former bastion of Spanish Catholicism.

One priest estimates that only around 10% of his parishioners attend Mass regularly now. The national average is 14.4%.

It is one indication of the state of the Church here, as Pope Benedict XVI arrives for his second visit since taking office.

Following a pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela, he will consecrate the Sagrada Familia in Barcelona, Anton Gaudi's famous unfinished work.

The Church in Spain has largely escaped the sexual abuse scandals that caused so much damage in Ireland, America and elsewhere but it is facing its own set of challenges.

For four decades, the Church was closely allied with General Franco's dictatorship.

After the transition, many Spaniards turned away as democracy and secularism became synonymous.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11698387
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Re: Pope Benedict XVI sees 'aggressive secularism' in Spain

Post by Ronja » Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:14 pm

:fp2: - then again, its the pope, so why should I feel even a little bit surprised or anything...

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Re: Pope Benedict XVI sees 'aggressive secularism' in Spain

Post by Thinking Aloud » Sat Nov 06, 2010 3:59 pm

The Spanish must have caught "aggressive secularism" off the British tourists.

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Post by Santa_Claus » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:21 pm

Surprised he didn't blame the Jews...........
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Post by Millefleur » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:31 pm

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Re: Pope Benedict XVI sees 'aggressive secularism' in Spain

Post by klr » Sat Nov 06, 2010 7:59 pm

Santa_Claus wrote:Surprised he didn't blame the Jews...........
I do believe the Catholics kicked the Jews out of Spain*, so that would be a bit tricky.

*At least those that the Inquisition didn't have tortured and converted. :mob:
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