The Lost Tomb of Jesus at Talpiot

[Feck]

Am I missing something here? 55 ad was about 25 years after the usual date for the cruxifiction. But it's widely accepted that the cruxifiction was later than that, possibly by as much as ten years.
Also, there was a very strong tradition of passing down history by word of mouth in those days, and great care was taken not to alter the stories. This also applied to written records, incredible care was taken to exactly copy documents.
I'm sure Paul was happy to lie, if it advanced his own importance. But he was so self important, that he would not have wanted to invite criticism, by getting the story wrong. So you just have to make your own mind up about what to believe.
Of course he made up the story about the 'road to Damascus' incident, or maybe faked it. It ensured that he not only could claim to have spoken with Jesus, but was the last man to speak with him. Very convenient.
I also don't believe all that bollocks about him persecuting the christians, before his conversion.
That's what christian apologists are still saying now, ''I used to be an atheist, I was more cynical than you, till I got the word of god''. It's psychology, it's saying, '' I'm not gullible, I'm convinced by the evidence, and you should be too ''.

But I personally feel that the names of the family would never have been changed. It's the sort of thing that was incredibly important to people of that era. Look at all the 'begats' in the bible.
That's all I'm taking as true, the names. I'm not even assuming he was cruxified, although it's likely.
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MMMMM shame there are 2 different sets of Begats though ?

[cowiz]

But I personally feel that the names of the family would never have been changed. It's the sort of thing that was incredibly important to people of that era. Look at all the 'begats' in the bible..

My emphasis.

That settles it then. Good robust arguments are always winners when they rely on "I want it to be so".

Nice work

[mistermack]

MMMMM shame there are 2 different sets of Begats though ?

mmmmmmmmm, I'm just saying names were more important then, than now. The old testament begats are nothing like the letters of Paul, so I'm not comparing the two. The old testament goes back into distant time. Paul wrote his letters withing a short time of the events. It's very unlikely the names would have changed.
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[mistermack]

But I personally feel that the names of the family would never have been changed. It's the sort of thing that was incredibly important to people of that era. Look at all the 'begats' in the bible..

My emphasis.

That settles it then. Good robust arguments are always winners when they rely on "I want it to be so".

Nice work

That's pretty dumb, pawiz. It's my opinion, and that's clearly stated. What on earth is wrong with that?
And who said " I want it to be so? "
Or does that apply to every opinion ever given, in your world?
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[Mysturji]

Am I missing something here? 55 ad was about 25 years after the usual date for the cruxifiction.
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Sorry.

Pappa got pwned by a theist!

On MATH!

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Hearsay is all Paul had. Filtered hearsay. It's the best theists have, so they love it. I've seen the same thing with another author, folks thought he was just the greatest thing since sliced bread. Book was My Struggle or something.

[mistermack]

Pappa got pwned by a theist!

On MATH!

Bring back the duck, I think it understood more of what's going on.
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[mistermack]

Hearsay is all Paul had. Filtered hearsay. It's the best theists have, so they love it. I've seen the same thing with another author, folks thought he was just the greatest thing since sliced bread. Book was My Struggle or something.

You read a book??? But how???
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[Gawdzilla Sama]

Hearsay is all Paul had. Filtered hearsay. It's the best theists have, so they love it. I've seen the same thing with another author, folks thought he was just the greatest thing since sliced bread. Book was My Struggle or something.

You read a book??? But how???
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I'd explain it to you, but if you read it, it would be a sin. And a shame.

[Jesus Christ]

OK, now I'm confused.
Am I dead or not?

[colubridae]

OK, now I'm confused.
Am I dead or not?

Uh-oh. Now up to this point I have merrily insulted jesus christ.

Now he's a member of the forum, what shall I do.
Let's test the water. Jesus christ you are a cock sucking piece of sheep spunk.

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[Mysturji]

OK, now I'm confused.
Am I dead or not?

Uh-oh. Now up to this point I have merrily insulted jesus christ.

Now he's a member of the forum, what shall I do.
Let's test the water. Jesus christ you are a cock sucking piece of sheep spunk.

edit typing oops

Goddidit.

[mistermack]

OK, now I'm confused.
Am I dead or not?

Don't you mean, am I still dead? You certainly don't look well. Someone's been performing open heart surgery, and has gone off for a cup of tea.
By the way, just out of interest, how do you do that water into wine trick?
I might have a use for it.
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