On why Atheism is a Shite BELIEF System

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Re: On why Atheism is a Shite BELIEF System

Post by mistermack » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:17 am

The only thing that I believe, is that the existence of any kind of god is unlikely but not impossible.
Depending on the definition of a god being an intelligent being which created the entire universe.

And the existence of the god Jehova, and his son being Jesus, etc etc. is incredibly unlikely, in the order of billions of billions to one against.

So yes, I do believe something. A probability. But I'm happy to change at a moments notice, given a change in the evidence.

Is believing in a probability and being prepared to change, an actual belief system?
If it is, it's certainly not a shite belief system. It works very well. It's what all of science uses. It puts rovers on Mars and finds cures for diseases.
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Post by pErvinalia » Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:26 am

I'm happy to say I believe that god doesn't exist. That's not me asserting that he doesn't exist, it's just a pragmatic approach to the real world in the total absence of any repeatable measurable evidence.
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Post by Seth » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:00 pm

JimC wrote:I'll decide what part of my cognitive functions is or is not a belief system, not you.
No you don't. That would be you making shit up to suit your ego. The definition is perfectly clear and your thinking matches the pattern of every other human being on earth, so it's a belief, like it or not.
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Post by Seth » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:03 pm

mistermack wrote:The only thing that I believe, is that the existence of any kind of god is unlikely but not impossible.
Depending on the definition of a god being an intelligent being which created the entire universe.

And the existence of the god Jehova, and his son being Jesus, etc etc. is incredibly unlikely, in the order of billions of billions to one against.

So yes, I do believe something. A probability. But I'm happy to change at a moments notice, given a change in the evidence.

Is believing in a probability and being prepared to change, an actual belief system?
If it is, it's certainly not a shite belief system. It works very well. It's what all of science uses. It puts rovers on Mars and finds cures for diseases.
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I never said it was a bad belief system, just that it is a belief. And being a belief it can be systematically practiced in a manner that causes it to fall under the definition of "religion." This is not to say that simply holding a belief is in and of itself indicative of religious belief. More is required for it to become a religious belief...such as following that belief devotedly as a matter of ethics or conscience...perhaps by spending decades arguing and defending those beliefs in an on-line forum dedicated to that very belief.
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Post by Animavore » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:04 pm

Why has no one done a parody on why Islam is a Shiite belief system yet?
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Post by Hermit » Tue Apr 28, 2015 6:25 pm

Animavore wrote:Why has no one done a parody on why Islam is a Shiite belief system yet?
or similarly, Has it ever occurred to anyone that we have room for a parody thread titled On why SHIITE is a Muslim belief system? ;)
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Post by DaveDodo007 » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:21 pm

jamest wrote:One cannot say that "There is no evidence for God" without implicating oneself in having a biased criterion for what counts as metaphysical evidence (scientific/empirical evidence = metaphysical evidence).

This FACT - given that the aforementioned criterion is utterly unjustifiable via reason (in fact, it's utterly irrational to think that an observed/experienced world and a world itself are not distinct) - means that 'atheism' is no more a rational [metaphysical] perspective to hold than [say] being a Christian [or suchlike]. Which, in turn, means that being an atheist turns out to be yet another shite belief system.

That's the shortest and sharpest undermining of atheism you'll ever witness. You are now agnostics. If not, then there's something fundamentally wrong with your ability to reason.
Oh give this shit a rest, just accuse most of them of swapping a religion for an ideology. :tup:
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Re: On why Atheism is a Shite BELIEF System

Post by Xamonas Chegwé » Thu Apr 30, 2015 10:26 pm

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jamest wrote:One cannot say that "There is no evidence for God" without implicating oneself in having a biased criterion for what counts as metaphysical evidence (scientific/empirical evidence = metaphysical evidence).

This FACT - given that the aforementioned criterion is utterly unjustifiable via reason (in fact, it's utterly irrational to think that an observed/experienced world and a world itself are not distinct) - means that 'atheism' is no more a rational [metaphysical] perspective to hold than [say] being a Christian [or suchlike]. Which, in turn, means that being an atheist turns out to be yet another shite belief system.

That's the shortest and sharpest undermining of atheism you'll ever witness. You are now agnostics. If not, then there's something fundamentally wrong with your ability to reason.
Oh give this shit a rest, just accuse most of them of swapping a religion for an ideology. :tup:
That's what he is doing. It's bollocks but it's central to his ideology that that is what we are doing, so he can't see past his own preconceptions. :tea:
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Re: On why Atheism is a Shite BELIEF System

Post by JimC » Thu Apr 30, 2015 11:07 pm

When I hear the word ideology, I reach for my Luger...
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