Tennessee bloke quits job over satanic wage slip

[Callan]

I thought the 1/3rd of angels and Lucifier rebelling had already occured after creation? hence his falling, not something that was going to happen in the future unless its a rematch.

If it is going to happen in the future then you can't trust any angels then can you as a 1/3rd would be in league with Satan.

I don't know nuffink about that there religion malarkey, but if we can trust Milton (and we generally can, the anal little wank-stain) then the fall of Lucifer and his crew of rebel angels occurred some while before the creation - if not the creation of the earth itself, then certainly those of Adam and Eve. God created humans as a form of compensatory ego-boosting to perk himself up after Lucifer's rebellion. And I believe we are to understand that this shit happened in the distant past rather than the future.

So maybe you can trust angels....?
If you're clinically insane.


Please don't make me go and look up which books of Paradise Lost contain all this bollocks.

[Coito ergo sum]

I thought the 1/3rd of angels and Lucifier rebelling had already occured after creation? hence his falling, not something that was going to happen in the future unless its a rematch.

If it is going to happen in the future then you can't trust any angels then can you as a 1/3rd would be in league with Satan.

I don't see how that could be. The War in Heaven occurs in the Book of Revelation, and is not referring to a past event. It is an event that the writer of the Book of Revelation is having a vision of happening in the future. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Heaven

Satan is in heaven right now, according to the Bible. Although I would be willing to bet that 90% of Christians would say that the Bible says the Devil is in Hell. Isn't. Will be. But, is not yet.

[Callan]

Are we sure that the whole of Revelation is meant to be interpreted as that which will be rather than that which has been?

Bearing in mind that its author was as mad as a spoon....

[Coito ergo sum]

Are we sure that the whole of Revelation is meant to be interpreted as that which will be rather than that which has been?

Bearing in mind that its author was as mad as a spoon....

As far as we know, all we can go by is the text.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se ... ersion=NIV

Taken in context of Revelation 11, etc., Revelation 12 seems to be written in chronological order. The dragon and the woman in the first few verses of Revelation 12 occur, and "then" the war breaks out in heaven. So, if the War in Heaven is occurring in Genesis times, then so too would be this dragon and woman giving birth thing. And, in Revelation 11 and previously, the author is chronologically following the 7 trumpets.

I also do not see the ravings of a madman in the Book of Revelation. I think more recent scholarship on the topic suggests that the writer was not mad at all, but was writing in code understandable symbolically to a desired audience in the first century AD. Revelation certainly does not have a Unabomber screed sense about it. It does not ramble, etc.

[Callan]

John Milton was

a) a poetic genius

b) a scholar of international repute, both in his own time and in ours.


You, Coito - much as I love you - are neither of these things. So you will have to forgive me if I choose to go with Mister Milton on this one.






Besides, he talks purty...