Leaving Amish Paradise

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Leaving Amish Paradise

Post by klr » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:18 pm

This was broadcast on the BBC back in March or thereabouts, and follows an earlier program dealing with the same topic and some of the same people:



The Good: People are leaving the Amish because they don't want to live by Amish rules.

The Bad: They are leaving to join evangelical churches who are actively "poaching" the Amish. :|~ :|~ :|~ :|~ :|~
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:51 pm

Not much of a step up, is it?
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Post by klr » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:52 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:Not much of a step up, is it?
Worse, a big step backwards if you ask me. Yes, they are now living pretty much in the modern world, but their minds are even more warped than ever.
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:54 pm

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Gawdzilla wrote:Not much of a step up, is it?
Worse, a big step backwards if you ask me. Yes, they are now living pretty much in the modern world, but their minds are even more warped than ever.
Modern world?
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Post by klr » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:57 pm

Gawdzilla wrote:
klr wrote:
Gawdzilla wrote:Not much of a step up, is it?
Worse, a big step backwards if you ask me. Yes, they are now living pretty much in the modern world, but their minds are even more warped than ever.
Modern world?
Yup, they are driving cars, travelling on planes to foreign parts, etc. ... but they are now 100% full-on fundies who can't go a single sentence without invoking God. At one point in the program, the main character had a dig at Darwin, and claimed that he was now in hell. :roll:
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Post by Robert_S » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:50 pm

I watched the first 15 minutes or so and I think the Amish who shunned him were right. Preaching like that is a form of pride and verily he has all of his reward for it in full, even if Christianity is true. Advanced gadgetry is all the guy got from the modern world it seems.
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Post by klr » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:52 pm

Robert_S wrote:I watched the first 15 minutes or so and I think the Amish who shunned him were right. Preaching like that is a form of pride and verily he has all of his reward for it in full, even if Christianity is true. Advanced gadgetry is all the guy got from the modern world it seems.
Yeah, I got that vibe as well ... it gets worse if you have the stomach to watch some more. :ddpan:
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Post by Svartalf » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:54 pm

Robert_S wrote:I watched the first 15 minutes or so and I think the Amish who shunned him were right. Preaching like that is a form of pride and verily he has all of his reward for it in full, even if Christianity is true. Advanced gadgetry is all the guy got from the modern world it seems.
Wait? there is more to be got?

Because the outer world may not have much more to offer in the realm of nice people and human values than buggyland.
More diversity, sure, but it doesn't seem like he is equipped to deal with that, is he?
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Post by Gawdzilla Sama » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:06 am

Robert_S wrote:I watched the first 15 minutes or so and I think the Amish who shunned him were right. Preaching like that is a form of pride and verily he has all of his reward for it in full, even if Christianity is true. Advanced gadgetry is all the guy got from the modern world it seems.
My first thoughts. They're going for the toys.
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Re: Leaving Amish Paradise

Post by Tero » Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:27 am

I like the cool scooters. Who needs pedals? Pedals are from the devil! Cool Ringo haircuts!

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