Tony Blair attacks atheism

[Elessarina]

""We face an aggressive secular attack from without. We face the threat of extremism from within."

Arguing that there was "no hope" from atheists who scorn God, he said the best way to confront the secularist agenda was for all faiths to unite against it. "




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[angrychimp]

Oh now I get why he was so in love with George dubya

[Rum]

Don't you just love the logic? 'United' religions, all of which believe in somethign different and sometimes hostile to each other and are for the most part mutually exclusive band together to combat people who don't believe any of them!

[The Dawktor]

Don't you just love the logic? 'United' religions, all of which believe in somethign different and sometimes hostile to each other and are for the most part mutually exclusive band together to combat people who don't believe any of them!

Yes- a combined march of mutually respecting loving Muslims, Jews and Christians peacefully protesting outside Atheist Central Headquaters- oh, wait a minute??????

[JacksSmirkingRevenge]

How I wish somebody would assassinate that useless cunt.

[floppit]

Woah!!! Hang on a sec - the no hope bit needs to be in context:

Those who scorn God and those who do violence in God’s name, both represent views of religion. But both offer no hope for faith in the twenty first century.

I don't actually disagree with that - who here offers hope for religion in the coming century?

And then - yup, it won't happen (which is why I offer religion no hope) but I agree with this too:

The best hope for faith in the twenty first century is that we confront all of this together. This is not because we intend to have the same faith. We don’t. Our separate beliefs will remain. But our coming together, will allow us to speak in friendship to one another about our own faiths; and also speak to the world about faith.

The word secularist doesn't even appear in the full text of the speech. I can't do a linky because it's a downloadable Word Doc, just keep working back through the refs and you'll get there.

Let me make this clear - I'm not a Blair supporter and I don't agree with his faith views but I am a pedantic little sod that distrusts commentary in the absence of a full text!

[Clinton Huxley]

The cognitive dissonance going on in Blair's mind is really quite startling.

[charlou]

The word secularist doesn't even appear in the full text of the speech. I can't do a linky because it's a downloadable Word Doc, just keep working back through the refs and you'll get there.

hmmm ... Where do the quoted lines in the opening post come from, then?



Edit...

"We face an aggressive secular attack from without. We face the threat of extremism from within."

Found it, here: http://www.tonyblairoffice.org/2009/10/ ... -text.html

[Clinton Huxley]

The sooner that profiteering war-criminal is locked up, the better. I tire of listening to his pious cant.

[charlou]

Okay, floppit, I see you said the word 'secularist', as mentioned in the op ... you're right, it doesn't appear in the speech ...

Still, the implication of what is said seems to be that faith is a 'force for good' and secularism is in opposition to that, ie a 'force for evil'.


"Those who scorn God" ... meaning secularists/atheists ... Well that's just plain wrong. We don't scorn something we don't even have a belief in. That aside, what Blair means there is those who scorn 'good', again implying secularists/atheists are a force for evil. The whole thing is all about how faith is required for morality and the challenge is to confront immorality in the form of secularism/atheism and religious extremism.

[Pappa]

""We face an aggressive secular attack from without. We face the threat of extremism from within."

Arguing that there was "no hope" from atheists who scorn God, he said the best way to confront the secularist agenda was for all faiths to unite against it. "




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OMFG!

Why is it only the nice people who get assassinated?

[Ace]

what Blair means there is those who scorn 'good', again implying secularists/atheists are a force for evil.

Maybe he should read da bible.
"Do not judge. Mt.7:1,2.
Do not judge, and you will not be judged; and do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; pardon, and you will be pardoned."

[devogue]

Tony Blair should be in prison.

[Feck]

Which stupid pointless war did God give him guidance to send our troops to ?
When he knew he was lying about the intelligence reports from the start .

That fucker is a murderer and now he charges for pictures ...whore

[Clinton Huxley]

If he becomes EU President, I may start to believe in Revelations...