Manosphere and toxic males of the Trump era

[Tero]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... manosphere

If the blue pill is synonymous with ignorance and the red pill about understanding the matrix to manipulate it, the black pill is rooted in the decision to relinquish hope altogether. Incels see themselves as the unwanted detritus of successive sexual and social media revolutions. Refusing to compete with the torrent of perfect images, they stew in nihilism and despair, denied access to the main currency of masculinity: women’s bodies.

The instructor wasn’t letting up, though. “Fight the fear,” he bellowed as Nick nestled the phone between his shoulder and ear, and listlessly gyrated his hips. “People in the street had completely faded out by that point,” he said. “I wasn’t feeling fear because I wasn’t feeling anything.” His mum was still on the line, fussing about her dad’s affairs that would need sorting. Had his grandad wanted to be buried or cremated? How should he know? He was still half-heartedly going at the lamp-post when the first salty tear ran down his cheek and into his mouth. At that point, “ it was like: what the fuck am I doing with my life?” Nick finally gave up when a drunken woman kicked him between the legs from behind with a bulky heel.

I asked Nick if he thought his own sense of reality had been distorted at all by social media. (He admitted to watching internet porn for “at least 10 minutes” on most days.) “Maybe,” he replied before slamming the door firmly shut on that train of thought. “But I reckon I would want those things anyway,” he added. “As men, we aren’t programmed to be with one woman. Our proclivities weren’t created by reason, but by natural selection.”

Nick was ventriloquising one of his favourite gurus again.

[Tero]

[Brian Peacock]

The Red Pill is a powerful metaphor for some people. It represents the acquisition of a certain kind of revelatory knowledge: knowledge of how the world really is and not just how it appears to be; an understanding of one's life as being subject to forces beyond one's control; a realisation of one's essential powerlessness - an impotence both revealed, and to some extent alleviated by the pill itself.

[Svartalf]

lol, what great revelation is there in 'I can't get laid because women won't say yes'?

[Brian Peacock]

lol, what great revelation is there in 'I can't get laid because women won't say yes'?

The 'revelation' is incels don't get laid because they say they have the wrong kind of jawline or hairline, or because they don't have the right physique and/or they're no good at sports, or because they don't earn enough. This is the reason women won't say yes - if they had a whiplash smile, luscious blond hair, and a Lamborghini women would say yes automatically, every time, and they wouldn't even have to try and be a half-decent, nice or considerate person. Of course, for the incel the women who don't say yes are entirely to blame here - for they are fickle creatures; shallow beings who place too much weight on things like personality, looks, personal hygiene, and economic independence etc when selecting a potential mating partner, all the things the incel believes they lack because they have been dealt a duff hand.

I'm blaming their parents.

And Capitalism, of course!

[Sean Hayden]

Indeed, where parents still parent fathers find these boys suitable wives...

[Svartalf]

oh, man, don't get me up with whining about how it's a disaster that my parents were no longer there to help me get a wife and I've been lonely all my life and will go on so till I pass away.

[Animavore]

A metaphor taken from a movie about trans identity.

Much self-awareness.

[Sean Hayden]

oh, man, don't get me up with whining about how it's a disaster that my parents were no longer there to help me get a wife and I've been lonely all my life and will go on so till I pass away.

What, you’re a fortune teller now?

[Svartalf]

well, I am not, but I can't see that the rest of my life will be different from the preceding part... my lack of success with women is no less than egregious

[Brian Peacock]

"To be a success with others one must first be a success with oneself." -- Arthur Mullard.

[Svartalf]

well, I'm a thorough failure it seems

[pErvinalia]

You've still got us, Svarty.

[Svartalf]

man, am I going to propose marriage to you or Brian, or maybe cheat on Bron with Jim?
we could turn this site into steamalia.com

[Brian Peacock]

A vicarious, non-contemporaneous, text-based polycule?