New Militant Communism In China and Russia

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New Militant Communism In China and Russia

Post by aufbahrung » Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:53 pm

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Re: New Militant Communism In China and Russia

Post by JimC » Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:54 pm

More forceful and aggressive authoritarian rule, sure, but they're as communist as Hitler...
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Re: New Militant Communism In China and Russia

Post by Brian Peacock » Wed Jan 19, 2022 7:45 am

Hashtag-not-my-communists.
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Re: New Militant Communism In China and Russia

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:36 am

JimC wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:54 pm
More forceful and aggressive authoritarian rule, sure, but they're as communist as Hitler...
Well, Hitler did make a lot of state owned economy and he did put a lot of unemployed back to work, his party was Nazional SOCIALIST FFS
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Re: New Militant Communism In China and Russia

Post by Hermit » Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:59 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:36 am
Well, Hitler did make a lot of state owned economy
He did not. There was no "state owned economy".
Svartalf wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:36 am
he did put a lot of unemployed back to work
This is true, but it was done via Keynesian style government spending. The people put back to work were employed by Thyssen, Krupp, IG Farben, Bosch, Blaupunkt, Daimler-Benz, Demag, Henschel, Junkers, Messerschmitt, Siemens and dozens of other privately owned corporations which landed huge government contracts.
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Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:36 am
his party was Nazional SOCIALIST FFS
The socialist aspect of the Nazi party was amputated when the Reichspropagandaleiter Gregor Strasser, who advocated an anti-capitalist social revolutionary course for the NSDAP, was sidelined by Hitler in 1930. He was replaced by Josef Goebbels and murdered during the Night of the Long Knives in 1934.

Hitler's Germany was no more socialist than Kim Jong-un's Democratic People's Republic of Korea is democratic.
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Re: New Militant Communism In China and Russia

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:03 pm

I didn't know the bit about Strasser, thanks for making me better.
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Re: New Militant Communism In China and Russia

Post by Hermit » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:39 am

Svartalf wrote:
Wed Jan 19, 2022 2:03 pm
I didn't know the bit about Strasser, thanks for making me better.
The persistence of the old canard regarding Nazi socialism gets a bit annoying, especially when the people who keep spreading it can only point to the word "socialist" in the Nazi party's name in their attempt to support their assertion. Not that they can do anything else. There is no evidence that Hitler's regime was a socialist one. None whatsoever. Economically, he worked through private enterprise, socially through the Gestapo, the SI and the SS.

If you have not already done so, you could read a brief summary of Gregor Strasser's rise and fall here.
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Re: New Militant Communism In China and Russia

Post by Svartalf » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:12 am

Thanks a lot
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