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Re: Russia invades Ukraine again?

Post by rainbow » Mon Jun 27, 2022 9:42 am

aufbahrung wrote:
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Putin said he'd wait till Christmas before getting serious with his new Satan-2's so my intuition is he's marked September for the first nuclear strike in this 'war to end all wars' game he's playing in his head. Probably play a tactical nuke in Ukraine to get the fear factor going. Then by intent or mistake, mostly a muddle of the two like suicides do, he'll drop a strategic one somewhere.
"Tactical" nuke is a nuke.

The only response is to retaliate with the entire arsenal.

Luckily for us in Africa, we aren't the target - so a little nuclear winter, and we'll be fine.
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Post by Tero » Mon Jun 27, 2022 10:21 am

I think by spring it will end. Interesting how. Analysis/plan:
2. Ukraine recognizes Russia's 2014 reunification with Crimea and renounces all intentions to recover it by force or otherwise.

3. Russia will withdraw all of its military forces to their pre-invasion positions, including from the Kharkiv, Zaporizhia, and Kherson oblasts but except for the Donbass region where the new line of control between Russia and Ukraine will be revised to the line of control as it exists at the execution of this agreement.

4. A popular referendum will be held by September 2022 for the entire Donbass region, including both the Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts, on whether their citizens wish to become independent or return to Ukrainian control. This referendum will be conducted by the respective governments of the Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts on each side of the line of control and will be supervised by United Nations or other neutral international observers. All citizens of the Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts, including refugees, shall be permitted and encouraged to vote in the referendum. The votes of the Luhansk and Donetsk oblasts shall be counted together so that the results shall be the same for both regions. In the event that a majority of their citizens vote to remain part of Ukraine, the Donbass region shall be permanently demilitarized with the withdrawal of all Russian and Ukrainian troops. As previously agreed to by Ukraine under the Minsk II agreement, Ukraine's constitution shall also be amended to guarantee the rights of Russian-speaking minorities. However, if the Donbass region votes for independence, all Ukrainian troops shall be withdrawn. Russian troops may remain only if invited to do so by the Luhansk and Donetsk Republic governments. Regardless of the outcome of the referendum, Ukraine agrees to make Russian one of its official languages again.

5. Russia will support Ukraine’s application to join the European Union.
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Post by Tero » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:00 pm

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They are stuck. A few missiles to Kiyv every now and then. Nato will be expanded before this ends.
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Post by Svartalf » Wed Jun 29, 2022 6:20 pm

I just hope we find ways to give erdogan all the thanks he deserves for his odious blackmail.
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Post by aufbahrung » Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:31 pm

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/22/russia- ... -move.html

Are they shifting the numbers for how the markets might react to a tactical nuke, or is there some other meaning to this interest rate cut?
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Post by Tero » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:01 pm

Yeah Putin is not going nuclear. North Korea and Iran are the only candidates.
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine again?

Post by Tero » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:18 pm

US Likely To Send Cold War-era A-10 Warthog Air Support Jets To Ukraine
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine again?

Post by Svartalf » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:37 pm

Tero wrote:
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Yeah Putin is not going nuclear. North Korea and Iran are the only candidates.
He knows that if he crosses that line, everywhere from the Urals to the Polish border will be turned into a glowing glass waste.

As for the really crazy one, it's a shame they lack the survival instinct for themselves or their people.
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine again?

Post by Svartalf » Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:41 pm

Tero wrote:
Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:18 pm
US Likely To Send Cold War-era A-10 Warthog Air Support Jets To Ukraine
https://www.republicworld.com/world-new ... eshow.html
Those are getting really old, shouldn't they order a bunch of new ones? I hope you still have the blueprints for all the parts...
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine again?

Post by Svartalf » Sat Jul 23, 2022 4:33 pm

Well, nice move unca vlad... will erdogan excite gray wolf activity in the russian sphere to thank him for spitting in his eye like he did this morning? I could think of other responses, but they are not realistic, I don't think he quite has the manipulation power to pull them off.
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Post by aufbahrung » Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:33 pm

Guy with six months to a year to live, and having grown up in the gutter where lives and ideas run cheap, gonna nuke cos nothing left to lose...
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine again?

Post by Svartalf » Sat Jul 23, 2022 5:35 pm

You got serious evidence to back that cack?
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Post by pErvinalia » Sat Jul 23, 2022 10:48 pm

He saw it in a (wet) dream.
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine again?

Post by Tero » Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:03 am

Source: intercepted phone call posted by the Chief Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defence

Quote: "Now they’ve withdrawn the battalions, they’ll make one out of three, because ... there are no people left. And then, f**k knows whether they’ll make one."

Details: The Russian soldier complains that 2,000 reinforcements have arrived in six months, of which 500 at most are still there.

He says that psychologists will be working with the personnel for 10 days since no one wants to go back to Ukraine.

The occupier also complains about the new artillery systems being used by the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
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