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Re: Russia invades Ukraine again?

Post by Tero » Sun May 22, 2022 11:25 am

Russia runs news bit on special "tank" and Ukraine figures out where it is and...was

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Post by Tero » Tue May 24, 2022 11:35 am

The cease fire (there will be no treaty) can only happen this way. It will take at least a year. Spending a winter outdoors will break the Russian army.
But even so, off-ramp remains the wrong metaphor and the wrong goal. The West should not aim to offer Putin an off-ramp; our goal, our endgame, should be defeat. In fact, the only solution that offers some hope of long-term stability in Europe is rapid defeat, or even, to borrow Macron’s phrase, humiliation. In truth, the Russian president not only has to stop fighting the war; he has to conclude that the war was a terrible mistake, one that can never be repeated. More to the point, the people around him—leaders of the army, the security services, the business community—have to conclude exactly the same thing. The Russian public must eventually come to agree too.
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Post by Tero » Tue May 24, 2022 2:26 pm

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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
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And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
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Post by aufbahrung » Tue May 24, 2022 6:37 pm



Offramp is appeasement and appeasement didn't work the last time this sort of thing happened
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Post by Tero » Tue May 24, 2022 8:13 pm

Fuck you Kissinger
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/henry- ... ory-russia

Giving Russia hunks of land is not going to end this.
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Post by Tero » Fri Jun 03, 2022 11:01 am

7 regular generals fired. One has been "disappeared:"
Their firing comes weeks after two generals were fired for performing poorly in Ukraine.

According to UK intelligence, Lieutenant General Serhiy Kisel, who commanded the elite 1st Guards Tank Army, was suspended for failing to capture Kharkiv. Meanwhile, Vice Admiral Igor Osipov, who commanded Russia's Black Sea Fleet, was fired after the Moskva battleship was sunk in April.

Meanwhile, Russia's top commander for the Ukraine war, Gen. Alexander Dvornikov, has not been seen for weeks, leading some US officials to speculate that he might have been removed from his post.
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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
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And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
We've come all the way from Wigan to get up and state
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine again?

Post by JimC » Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:30 pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-16/ ... /101160110
Russia's foreign ministry has sanctioned an additional 121 Australian citizens, including journalists and defence officials, citing what it calls a "Russophobic agenda" in the country.

Australian mining magnate Gina Rinehart, Seven West Media chairman Kerry Stokes, Andrew Forrest and South Australian Premier Peter Malinauskas have been added to the list.

Journalists from ABC News, the Sydney Morning Herald, Nine and Sky News, as well as various defence officials, are among the sanctioned individuals.
I'm offended! My name should be on the fucking list, I think you're an arsehole, Putin! :lay:
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine again?

Post by Svartalf » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:21 am

JimC wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 5:16 am
pErvinalia wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 3:12 am
pErvinalia wrote: I wonder if Putin will find this backfires, by encouraging NATO to add states in the east of Europe.
I was right. :coffee:
But Turkey is threatening a veto on their membership, because of their welcome to Kurdish refugees it claims are terrorists, and a ban on military exports to Turkey...
Honestly, we should cast turkey out of everything, until a proper Kemalist state has been restored, erdogan is no better than the next taliban.
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine again?

Post by Svartalf » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:23 am

JimC wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 9:23 am
I wonder if Putin is putting some pressure on Erdogan...
quite possible, that and the fact he likes his bread buttered on both sides.
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine again?

Post by Svartalf » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:26 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 9:00 am
Turkey's just looking for some gravy.
I'll give erdogan polonium laced tea, maybe the next head of state will be more readsonable
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine again?

Post by rainbow » Fri Jun 17, 2022 8:00 am

Svartalf wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:23 am
JimC wrote:
Tue May 17, 2022 9:23 am
I wonder if Putin is putting some pressure on Erdogan...
quite possible, that and the fact he likes his bread buttered on both sides.
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Post by Svartalf » Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:16 am

both of course.
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Post by Tero » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:58 am

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Said Peter...what you're requesting just isn't my bag
Said Daemon, who's sorry too, but y'see we didn't have no choice
And our hands they are many and we'd be of one voice
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Re: Russia invades Ukraine again?

Post by Tero » Mon Jun 20, 2022 11:10 am

Russia is so sparsely populated they will not have the manpower to cover such a large territory.

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Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...

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