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Post by Svartalf » Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:56 pm

macdoc wrote:
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Bout time
Trump says he expects to be arrested Tuesday as New York law enforcement prepares for possible indictment

By Kaitlan Collins, CNN
Updated 9:13 AM EDT, Sat March 18, 2023
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/18/poli ... index.html
don't hold your breath, if he really gets taken in police custody, I'd bet he'll be home free by the same evening
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Mar 18, 2023 4:41 pm

"Lock him up!"
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Post by Svartalf » Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:18 pm

and toss the key in a sewer grate
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Post by Joe » Sat Mar 18, 2023 5:27 pm

Svartalf wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 3:56 pm
macdoc wrote:
Sat Mar 18, 2023 1:06 pm
Bout time
Trump says he expects to be arrested Tuesday as New York law enforcement prepares for possible indictment

By Kaitlan Collins, CNN
Updated 9:13 AM EDT, Sat March 18, 2023
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/18/poli ... index.html
don't hold your breath, if he really gets taken in police custody, I'd bet he'll be home free by the same evening
For a money crime? Absolutely! They won't hold a rich guy for that in Merika. :biggrin:
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Post by Tero » Sat Mar 18, 2023 6:41 pm

He will get ankle monitor in Mar a Lago when all the crimes have been prosecuted.
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Post by Tero » Sat Mar 18, 2023 8:22 pm

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Jesus. The campaign slogan of the guy you're trying to protect was literally to lock up his opponent.
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Post by pErvinalia » Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:06 am

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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:29 am

Can someone with a criminal conviction run for office in the US?
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:40 am

In federal law there is no mention of a criminal conviction being a disqualification for the office of president. The authors of the Constitution apparently didn't foresee the need for such. Nor has the Supreme Court established any disqualification.

States may deny the vote to convicted felons (Iowa, Kentucky, Tennessee, Virginia) but a convicted felon can appear as a candidate for president on their ballots. :cheer:

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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:58 am

Well there's an easy bill for the Democrats to peddle through the legislature, one that will definitely put those who pay lip service to law-and-order on the back hoof.
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Will there be rioting if he gets arrested?
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:46 am

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Well there's an easy bill for the Democrats to peddle through the legislature, one that will definitely put those who pay lip service to law-and-order on the back hoof.
Conveniently, the US Supreme Court has ruled that Congress does not have the power to add qualifications for elected federal office.
In Federalist No. 60, Hamilton argued that Congress lacks the power to add to the qualifications for elected federal positions. In that paper, Hamilton wrote, "[t]he qualifications of the persons who may choose or be chosen [for a seat in Congress], as has been remarked upon other occasions, are defined and fixed in the Constitution, and are unalterable by the legislature." And Powell v. McCormack (1969) concluded that James "Madison had expressed similar views in [Federalist No. 52], and his arguments at the Convention leave no doubt about his agreement with Hamilton on this issue." Ultimately, Powell largely ratified Hamilton's position.

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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:50 am

pErvinalia wrote:
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Will there be rioting if he gets arrested?
He has called for it. Depends on how willing his red hats are to take to the streets. Since he is unlikely to be spending any time in custody not much opportunity for 'storming the Bastille,' but Washington DC is a target-rich environment for an ambitious mob.

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Post by JimC » Sun Mar 19, 2023 3:52 am

I wonder whether Stormy is having some delicious schadenfreude?
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sun Mar 19, 2023 4:02 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 2:46 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Sun Mar 19, 2023 1:58 am
Well there's an easy bill for the Democrats to peddle through the legislature, one that will definitely put those who pay lip service to law-and-order on the back hoof.
Conveniently, the US Supreme Court has ruled that Congress does not have the power to add qualifications for elected federal office.
In Federalist No. 60, Hamilton argued that Congress lacks the power to add to the qualifications for elected federal positions. In that paper, Hamilton wrote, "[t]he qualifications of the persons who may choose or be chosen [for a seat in Congress], as has been remarked upon other occasions, are defined and fixed in the Constitution, and are unalterable by the legislature." And Powell v. McCormack (1969) concluded that James "Madison had expressed similar views in [Federalist No. 52], and his arguments at the Convention leave no doubt about his agreement with Hamilton on this issue." Ultimately, Powell largely ratified Hamilton's position.

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Ah, but it doesn't matter if such a bill gets passed, the idea is to force the GOP to argue that criminals should be allowed to run for office. If convicted criminals are able to run for office then they should definitely be able to vote as well.
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