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Re: All Things Trump: the story continues...

Post by Tero » Sat Sep 10, 2022 2:23 pm

Trump left legal immigrants in a state where they were left with no path to cotizenship if they were ever on welfare etc:
What they're saying: "This action ensures fair and humane treatment of legal immigrants and their U.S. citizen family members," Secretary of Homeland Security Alejandro Mayorkas said in a statement.

"Consistent with America’s bedrock values, we will not penalize individuals for choosing to access the health benefits and other supplemental government services available to them."

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Post by Tero » Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:15 pm

Trump staff load boxes on plane:
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They could just be MAGA hats, but...
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Post by Tero » Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:53 pm

Reading the Woodward Fear book. In it, Navarro was the staff member that was always of the same opinion as Trump. Tariffs and all. He was on a personal mission to punish China. Never mind the economics. Cohn and others held him back. Bannon backed Trump and Navarro.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Navarro

And...he is an economist. A fringe economist. Not as famous as the Reagan guy.
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Re: All Things Trump: the story continues...

Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:41 pm

Anyone with an opinion on the economy is a fully qualified economist.

It's not looking like it's a science. More a narrow branch of moral philosophy.
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Re: All Things Trump: the story continues...

Post by Tero » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:00 pm

Reagan wanted to have a one handed economist. None of this "on the one hand..."

Reagan was a model for Trump. Trump came so much later the Reagan handlers were no use anymore.
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Post by JimC » Sat Sep 10, 2022 9:09 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
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Anyone with an opinion on the economy is a fully qualified economist.

It's not looking like it's a science. More a narrow branch of moral immoral philosophy.
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Post by Brian Peacock » Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:18 pm

:hehe:
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Post by Tero » Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:26 am

Deep state not very effective. Why could they not take out Trump while still in office?
Former White House adviser Bannon, who has been convicted on two counts of criminal contempt of Congress for defying a subpoena from the House January 6 panel, made unsupported claims to conspiracy monger Jones on Infowars that the FBI planted evidence against Trump during the Mar-a-Lago raid, and that the “deep state” is planning to kill Trump.

“I do not think it’s beyond this administrative state and their deep state apparatus to actually try to work on the assassination of President Trump,” said Bannon, who on 8 September was charged by New York prosecutors with fraud, money laundering and conspiracy involving his role in a private fundraising scheme to fund constructing the US-Mexico border wall.

Right before he left office, Trump pardoned Bannon who had been indicted on similar federal charges involving fraud and the border wall.

Graham provoked heavy criticism for making the suggestion in a Fox News interview that the FBI raid and investigation would lead to “riots in the street”, if charges were filed against Trump.
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Re: All Things Trump: the story continues...

Post by Tero » Mon Sep 12, 2022 1:36 am

I think the Supreme Court will steer clear of this and eave it to the DOJ:
NOT A FORMAL ‘DAMAGE ASSESSMENT’

According to the government, the documents seized at Mar-a-Lago and papers the Republican former president had turned over previously included highly sensitive “Special Access Program” designations as well as markings for intelligence derived from secret human sources and electronic signals programs. Those forms of intelligence are often produced by the CIA or the National Security Agency, and the underlying sources can take years to develop.

The ODNI review will try to determine the possible damage if the secrets in those documents were to be exposed. It has not said if it’s investigating whether documents already have been exposed.

Avril Haines, the director of national intelligence, confirmed the review in a letter to the chairpersons of two House committees. Haines’ letter says the ODNI will lead a “classification review of relevant materials, including those recovered during the search.” Experts say that could include non-classified papers with notes written on them that might reference classified information.

Haines’ letter also says her office will lead an assessment of “the potential risk to national security that would result from the disclosure of the relevant documents.”

That’s different from a formal “damage assessment” that intelligence agencies have carried out after high-profile breaches like the disclosures of programs by former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden.

Damage assessments have specific requirements under intelligence community guidelines published online, including an estimate of “actual or potential damage to U.S. national security,” the identification of “specific weaknesses or vulnerabilities” and “detailed, actionable recommendations to prevent future occurrences.”

Under those guidelines, the National Counterintelligence and Security Center, a subsidiary within the ODNI, would lead a damage assessment. The center is led by acting Director Michael Orlando as President Joe Biden has not yet nominated a chief counterintelligence executive.

It’s unknown whether the intelligence review will include interviewing witnesses. Haines’ letter says the ODNI will coordinate with the Justice Department to ensure its assessment does not “unduly interfere” with the criminal investigation.

For now, the Justice Department has said the ODNI review is paused after a federal judge barred the use of records seized at Mar-a-Lago in a criminal investigation. “Uncertainty regarding the bounds of the Court’s order and its implications for the activities of the FBI has caused the Intelligence Community, in consultation with DOJ, to pause temporarily this critically important work,” attorneys for the government said in a court filing.

THE ANSWERS COULD BE UNSATISFYING

The results may not come for weeks or months, and full findings will likely remain classified.

Lawmakers in both parties are calling for briefings from the intelligence community. None is known to have been scheduled.

Former officials note that it’s often difficult for agencies to diagnose specific damage from an actual or potential breach. Given the political climate and the unprecedented nature of evaluating a former president, the ODNI is widely expected to be limited and precise in what it says publicly and privately to Congress.

But reviews like the one underway often help top officials and lawmakers better understand vulnerabilities and how to manage risk going forward, said Timothy Bergreen, a former Democratic majority staff director for the House Intelligence Committee.

“No healthy organization or society can exist without comprehensive review of its mistakes,” Bergreen said. “That’s always been a democracy’s big advantage over authoritarians.”
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Post by Tero » Mon Sep 12, 2022 11:36 am

Trump appointed really goofball, but conservative young judges:
One reason some Trump-appointed judges may appear more eccentric or even extreme than their colleagues is that Trump nominees were typically picked from a smaller pool of candidates. Some legal conservatives declined to be considered for executive branch and judicial branch jobs because of distaste for Trump or concerns about being tarnished by association with him.

Others who were willing to accept a nomination found their bids derailed by a White House and a president notoriously thin-skinned about any hints of public criticism or potential disloyalty.
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Very consstent with Trump shake up the system plans.
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Re: All Things Trump: the story continues...

Post by rainbow » Mon Sep 12, 2022 12:07 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:41 pm
Anyone with an opinion on the economy is a fully qualified economist.

It's not looking like it's a science. More a narrow branch of moral philosophy.
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Post by Tero » Tue Sep 13, 2022 1:29 am

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Post by Tero » Tue Sep 13, 2022 2:19 pm

Judge Dierie:
The DOJ wants the special master to move relatively quickly, wrapping up its review in five weeks, by October 17. Trump has proposed 90 days.
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Post by Tero » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:30 pm

Trump is....1 golfing with Fox News big shots 2 shopping for a golf course 3 waiting for Joe Biden to take him to the Queens' funeral
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Re: All Things Trump: the story continues...

Post by Sean Hayden » Tue Sep 13, 2022 5:39 pm

Y’all are just stalkers now…

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