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Post by Scot Dutchy » Fri Oct 14, 2022 11:20 am

Boring...
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Post by Tero » Fri Oct 14, 2022 2:52 pm

Trump: George HW Bush stole millions of documents and stashed them in a bowling alley!

Mr Trump was likely referring to reports from 1994 about the site of a future George Bush Presidential Library and Museum at Texas University that was being considered in an old bowling alley and some of it was part of the kitchen of a Chinese restaurant there.

Mr Trump’s comment drew a sharp response on Twitter from Bush’s son, Jeb Bush. “I am so confused,” he said: “My dad enjoyed a good Chinese meal and enjoyed the challenge of 7 10 split. What the heck is up with you?”
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Re: All Things Trump: the story continues...

Post by Tero » Fri Oct 14, 2022 6:46 pm

Jan 6th committee is getting a lot for its money from Trump. "We can't let people know I lost!"
It's as if he were shooting The Apprentice and wants to reshoot the "election" scene.
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Post by JimC » Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:48 pm

Jeez, ya do your best to stack the fucking court, and the ingrates bail on you! Sad!
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Post by Tero » Sat Oct 15, 2022 1:22 am

Trump and pals somehow hired the right people...and Russia...2016 but not 2020.
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Michael Bender does make one important point: Donald Trump legitimately lost the presidential election of 2020 to former Vice President Joe Biden. It wasn't voter fraud or malfeasance. It was simply Trump did not obtain enough electoral votes to secure reelection to the US Presidency, based on the outcomes of the voting in 50 states and in turn their allocation of electoral votes. Trump won 232 electoral votes to Joe Biden's 306, the former being 38 votes shy of the 270 electoral votes needed to secure the US Presidency. Trump also lost the popular vote by 7 million votes, one of the larger spreads in recent elections.

How this happened is not as straight-forward as many voters might realize, at least among those who don't believe there was any significant fraud. Bender offers a thoroughly engaging behind-the-scenes examination of what went on within Trump World from roughly late 2019 to the riots at the Capitol on January 6, 2021. His assertions are based on countless interviews with many Trump campaign operatives, the inner circle often called "Trump World". Unlike many other journalists who were not given access to the President in news organizations which attempt to remain neutral, such as NPR, PBS and CNN, Bender, who writes for the Wall Street Journal, had access to Trump himself and was given many interviews. (Bender claims it was because Trump liked his hair!)

The startling news is that Bender paints a portrait of the 2020 Trump Campaign being in massive disarray. Infighting was often constant, and campaign managers were demoted, rehired and in some cases demoted again. When things went right, it was because of Trump. When they went wrong, Trump blamed people on his team but never acknowledged his own shortcomings. Surprise surprise.

Brad Parscale who was instrumental in Trump's win in 2016 began as his top campaign manager only later in July, 2020, to be demoted to the rank of analyst. Why? Because Trump's poll numbers were not improving and so it must be Parscale's fault. He couldn't seem to capture lightning in a bottle the second time. His job was taken by Bill Stepien, and Parscale harbored resentment against Stepien. But that's only the tip of the Trumpian iceberg. But it sounds like it wasn't all Parscale's fault: Trump's numbers were bad because of the public perception of him as a national leader, particularly regarding the pandemic.

His team was constantly trying to find a message for Trump, which couldn't be "Make America Great Again" because that would imply that he hadn't made America great again during his term in office! His team engage in constant focus groups and polling to find out where the American voter pulse lay. However, Trump often vetoed their recommendations at many turns, particularly with only weeks left in the campaign. Even some television campaign ads which polled poorly Trump wanted run. It was as if Trump simply wanted to make points with his voter base but not expand his votes, which they realized was crucial in the reelection bid. Appealing to the Trump base was not going to get him reelected.

For example, the team found that voters wanted to get a better sense of how Trump was dealing with the coronavirus pandemic. But instead, Trump wanted to focus on Hunter Biden, Joe Biden's son who was involved in a law firm dealing with a Ukrainian energy company. Trump wanted to prove that Joe Biden had used the power of his office to get Hunter into the situation, although Hunter didn't join the law firm until 2017, after Trump and Pence had taken office.

In the last rallies of the campaign, Trump mentioned Hunter Biden dozens of times when voters ultimately didn't care and/or didn't even know who Hunter Biden was! Campaign operatives in Trump World often told the President that if an average-American voter knew of a loved one who was either ill or died from covid-19, it really didn't matter to them whether Hunter Biden might have engaged in illicit activity in the Ukraine, which all evidence indicated he didn't. But Trump didn't listen but pounded away at Hunter without addressing the concerns of average middle-Americans as much as he should have. He also tried to label Joe Biden as "Sleepy Joe" but it didn't stick, in the same way he had labeled Hillary Clinton as "Crooked Hillary".

Also, the whole culture of the Trump Administration appears like a mirror-image of his business. Often, people in his inner-circle didn't want to give the President bad news. When Trump's poll numbers suffered huge setbacks, particularly after the first debate with VP Joe Biden, Trump had convinced himself he'd won. People in Trump World were afraid to tell him he'd lost the debate, with only a few exceptions, such Chris Christie, who is non-nonsense when it comes to politics, and Tucker Carlson, the Fox News host who technically wasn't part of Trump World.

A fascinating but sobering exposure of how just about everything went wrong with the Trump campaign of 2020, which was almost diametrically opposite from his campaign in 2016 which was a very well-oiled machine.
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Re: All Things Trump: the story continues...

Post by Tero » Sat Oct 15, 2022 11:20 am

Trump planning to win the 2020 election...in the 2022 election.
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Post by Tero » Sun Oct 16, 2022 8:43 pm

Trump may need to show up to testify and take the 5th.
The former president responded to the panel with a 14-page statement that repeatedly condemned the committee — “Despite very poor television ratings, the Unselect Committee has perpetuated a Show Trial the likes of which this Country has never seen before” — and also offered a long string of allegations about the 2020 election being stolen, some anecdotal in nature, some long-disproved and/or rejected in court.

“He’s required by law to come in and he can ramble and push back all he wants,” Kinzinger said. “That’s the requirement for congressional subpoena, to come in.”
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Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:07 am

He’s never embarrassed.

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Post by Tero » Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:54 pm

I did not read all of it, but I will be only one the three I will keep for a while. The third was good too, covers 2020 election. But it's hard cover so I gave that copy away.
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Post by L'Emmerdeur » Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:57 am

Oh yeah. The once and future president.

'Trump Says He Wants Marjorie Taylor Greene in His Next Administration'
If you're wondering what a second term of Donald Trump would look like, look no further than Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene.

As he lays the groundwork for a 2024 presidential run, Trump has talked to close associates about who he’d tap for top government positions should he win back the White House, and Greene has repeatedly made his list, two sources familiar with the matter tell Rolling Stone.

“Wouldn’t she be great?” Trump privately said earlier this year to a confidant, one of the two people says. It is unclear what specifically Trump has in mind for the severely MAGAfied Georgia Republican, be it a White House staff position, cabinet post, or agency appointment, the sources say. But, “he loves MTG and would want her very close in a second term, that much was clear,” one source says.

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Post by Tero » Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:21 am

Trump Names 2025 Cabinet Posts
Donald Trump has a ten point plan to Make America Great Again in 2025. Number one the list is to evict the United Nations from New York. "It's just a step toward world government. And there are Muslims in it. We are going to send it to Switzerland."

For Cabinet posts, Matt Gaetz will be Attorney General.
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Post by Scot Dutchy » Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:59 pm

Insanity knows no bounds. Who cares?
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Re: All Things Trump: the story continues...

Post by Tero » Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:01 pm

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:59 pm
Insanity knows no bounds. Who cares?
It was parody, Scotty.
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Post by Tero » Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:04 am

He did MAGA a little bit. 65 dollars a month.
The Christmas present Trump promised the middle class turned out to be a trinket. The tax cut’s benefits to middle-wage earners worked out to about $65 a month, according to numbers crunched by the nonpartisan Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy. As passed, the income tax cuts will begin to phase out in 2025, and by 2027 many working-class wage earners will face a higher tax burden. Republicans structured the law this way to hold the projected cost of the bill below a $1.5 trillion threshold that allowed for Senate passage with just 50 votes. Future Congresses, they argued, would of course act to prevent any tax hike on the working class. Key to note, however: Corporations were spared any similar anxiety about their future tax burden. The corporate cuts don’t expire under this law.

In marketing his tax bill, Trump made wild promises about indirect benefits of his giveaway, including that the “huge tax cut will be rocket fuel for our economy,” driving GDP growth as high as six percent and boosting wages between $4,000 and $9,000 a year. It was familiar nonsense. Far from representing a break from the economic policies of the old-line GOP, Trump’s tax cut built on the ruinous legacy of “trickle down” economics championed by George W. Bush and Reagan. “It’s a lie,” says Blyth, “and the lie is that if you give rich people these tax cuts, investment will skyrocket and [new wealth will] trickle down to everyone else. It never works.”

Americans might have at least hoped for an economic sugar high from Trump’s great giveaway, as the nation experienced after the W. Bush tax cuts. But even as the cost of the Trump cut has grown to a projected $1.9 trillion, the macroeconomic data don’t indicate any significant jolt to the economy. As it had in Obama’s last years, GDP continued to grow modestly, at 2.9 percent in 2018, declining to 2.2 percent in 2019. The CRS assessed in 2019 that the cut had a “small (if any)” impact on growth and that there was “no indication of a surge in wages.” The cash corporations brought home from overseas did not spur research and development. Worker bonuses dried up faster than the ink of Trump’s signature on the bill. For the average American, the difference between the Obama economy that Trump decried as “American carnage,” and the Trump economy, which he touted as the “best ever,” was no difference at all.

The Trump tax bill has taken America’s ideal of progressive taxation — in which the richest pay the greatest share — and turned it on its head for those at the very top. The effective tax rate for the richest 400 families in America fell to just 23 percent in 2018. That’s below the average rate paid by the bottom 50 percent of income earners, according to U.C. Berkeley economists Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman. Under Trump, they write in their new book, The Triumph of Injustice, “the Zuckerbergs and the Buffetts of this world pay lower tax rates than teachers.”

Add in Trump’s trade war with China and it’s not clear the middle class has received any net benefit from Trump’s tax policies.
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Re: All Things Trump: the story continues...

Post by Scot Dutchy » Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:30 am

Scot Dutchy wrote:
Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:59 pm
Insanity knows no bounds. Who cares?
My remark remains the same. Trump is dead RIP. There are more important things requiring attention than that load of sh*te.
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