All Things Biden: Is It Over Yet?

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Post by Sean Hayden » Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:21 pm

Just about every working person in the US who actually contributes.

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Re: All Things Biden: Is It Over Yet?

Post by Svartalf » Fri Sep 30, 2022 9:38 pm

I assume he means rich kids whose parents take humongous student loans for and then get the loan pardoned so it's the taxpayer who forks out the lettuce.
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Re: All Things Biden: Is It Over Yet?

Post by Sean Hayden » Sat Oct 01, 2022 12:55 am

The former president, loved by so many of these deplorables consistently borrowed money on non-existent assets, and managed to pay no taxes to boot.

These scoundrels literally don’t buy things with their own money. It’s a free ride cradle to grave.

And with all that good fortune they still manage to begrudge the little man his. —ass cancer would be too kind

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Re: All Things Biden: Is It Over Yet?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:07 am

Tero wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:55 pm
Loan pardon unpopular with GOP. Now ruined for democrats as well:
https://www.npr.org/2022/09/29/11259235 ... el-perkins
It's how things work; this ties in with themes touched on in the 'Best Solution to Poverty' thread. From the article:
"The consolidation of MOHELA's FFELP loans [student loans held by private lenders--banks] harms the entity [lender] by depriving it of an asset (the FFELP loans themselves) that it currently owns," says the complaint. "The consolidation of MOHELA's FFELP loans harms the entity by depriving it of the ongoing interest payments that those loans generate."

In response to the lawsuit, Persis Yu, of the Student Borrower Protection Center, says, "FFEL lenders have shown their true colors. Instead of working in the interest of student loan borrowers – their customers – these lenders are holding hostage relief to millions of borrowers in order to keep making a buck off of borrowers suffering."
Corporations have a primary obligation by law to 'maximise shareholder value'. You will hear 'authorities' claim otherwise, but the courts have made it clear. While Persis Yu is correct regarding the true colors of the banks, no corporation works in the interest of their customers. The US government's lawyers know that the Biden executive order as originally written wouldn't stand up in court. I think if Biden wants to get the banks off the backs of the people affected by this, he will have to make the banks whole--not only cover the student debt, but also cover the interest the banks would have got from the 'customers.'

On the question of the primacy of 'maximising shareholder value,' two sources. The first is more polemic, though it cites the second, a deeper and more nuanced piece.

'Are Corporations Legally Required To Maximise Profits Above All Else?'

'eBay v. Newmark: Al Franken Was Right, Corporations Are Legally Required To Maximize Profits'

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Post by rainbow » Sat Oct 01, 2022 7:47 am

L'Emmerdeur wrote:
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Corporations have a primary obligation by law to 'maximise shareholder value'. You will hear 'authorities' claim otherwise, but the courts have made it clear. While Persis Yu is correct regarding the true colors of the banks, no corporation works in the interest of their customers.

Corporations are generally managed by the self interest of the Executive.

Their bonus' is the primary driver.
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Re: All Things Biden: Is It Over Yet?

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Sun Oct 09, 2022 2:12 am

Grampa Joe trolling the red hats.

'Biden Names and Shames "Socialist Republicans" Who Voted Against His Infrastructure Bill but Are Begging Him for Funding'
President Joe Biden spoke about the September jobs report praised by leading economists Friday afternoon, and took a few moments to criticize the “socialist Republicans” who publicly voted against the critical infrastructure legislation that is an important part of his economic agenda, while privately begging him for funding for their districts.

“There’s a report, you guys can, as they say, as my grandkids say, ‘Google it,’ but a report that came out on CNN that says, ‘Republicans called Biden infrastructure program socialist.’ Then they asked for the money,” the President said mockingly.

“And it goes through all the Republicans, the most conservative Republicans, who called it ‘socialism,’ and now they’re asking for it. A guy named Paul Gosar,” President Biden said, referring to far-right wing white nationalist U.S. Rep. Paul Gosar, Republican of Arizona.

“He’s written three separate letters to the administration, asking for projects in his district,” Biden said, appearing to read from the CNN report. “He says they enhance the quality of life and ease congestion, boost the economy.”

Biden. leaning into the microphone, told supporters, “Voted against it, says it’s all socialism.”

“Go down the list. Kentucky Representative Andy Barr.”

Mocking the GOP lawmaker he mimicked him saying, “The biggest socialist agenda.”

“Three different projects he wants, citing the importance of safety and growth in his district.”

“Rand Paul,” President Biden continued. “I go down the list. Look it up,” he said waving the pages of the report.

“Socialist,’ he said mockingly.

“I didn’t know there were that many socialist Republicans,” Biden deadpanned.

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Re: All Things Biden: Is It Over Yet?

Post by Hermit » Sun Oct 09, 2022 4:46 am

:lol:

I hope Biden - and all other Democrats - keep trolling the "anti-socialist" Republican fuckers. Though rusted-on Trumpers will not change their deluded faith in the psychopath, ridicule may be an effective tool to wean others off their delusions.
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Re: All Things Biden: Is It Over Yet?

Post by Tero » Sun Oct 09, 2022 3:58 pm

Biden will make it to a second term because you don't change horses in midstream when...
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Post by Tero » Mon Oct 10, 2022 10:23 pm

Trump News/Fox report on millions of illegals coming in under Biden. Then they tack on this bit, forgetting that all the fentanyl was confiscated from Americans, not Mexican cartels: (numbers do not add up)
Under Trump, Border Patrol’s fentanyl seizures for FY 2019 and ’20 (through August 31) totaled 7,595 pounds. Under Biden’s equivalent dates in FY ’21 and ’22: 24,062 pounds — up 217%.

Mexican cartels freely traverse the “border” to transport this venom. Biden Democrats couldn’t care less.
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Re: All Things Biden: Is It Over Yet?

Post by Sean Hayden » Mon Oct 10, 2022 11:49 pm

That’s all theater. Make our lives better by improving transportation.

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Re: All Things Biden: Is It Over Yet?

Post by macdoc » Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:06 am

could it be ???
Michael Moore predicts Democrats will win big in the midterms. Could he be right again?
Maverick filmmaker who called 2016 for Trump sees a "tsunami" of angry Democrats hitting polls in "Roevember"

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Re: All Things Biden: Is It Over Yet?

Post by Tero » Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:17 pm

It's fine, Moore is mostly OK but I'm done with people going "I was right." Most people are right once. Just once.
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Re: All Things Biden: Is It Over Yet?

Post by Woodbutcher » Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:19 pm

You may be right.
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Post by macdoc » Tue Oct 11, 2022 8:43 pm

Most people are right once. Just once.
That was a gutsy unexpected call and a depressing one when he turned out to be correct.
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Re: All Things Biden: Is It Over Yet?

Post by Tero » Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:37 pm

Well, I have a problem with the people who think we are past Trump. So we don't need to do anything. Including some of my kids, their spouses and extended family. Excluding the 2 republicans in the 10-15 people in this sample. Them I don't talk politics with.
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Our case for survival before it's too late

Turn stone to bread, said Daemon Duncetan
Turn stone to bread right away...

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