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by L'Emmerdeur » Wed Oct 21, 2020 1:40 am
Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:23 pm
That's good to see, but I'm skeptical. The majority of Americans may not know what it is.
The question they were responding to is quoted in that graphic. It explains in clear language what
Roe v. Wade is.
Sean Hayden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:23 pm
What do they say about abortion specifically?
According to Gallup some 47% think it is morally wrong. More interesting to the question raised by my post though is the difference between educated vs uneducated. The more education one has the less likely they are to view abortion as immoral.
To me this speaks to the possibility that pro-life arguments may indeed be easier to present and accept.
I'm not disputing your hypothesis. I'm pointing out that regardless of the ease of presenting arguments against women's reproductive rights, a significant majority of the US public doesn't want
Roe v. Wade to be overturned, and that includes Republicans.
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by Sean Hayden » Wed Oct 21, 2020 2:31 am
I'm just skeptical. It's a weird result.
As recently as 2019 some 60% of Republicans wanted to make abortion illegal in all or most cases. How does that square with not wanting to overturn Roe v Wade, which is not nearly so restrictive? Did an opinion on something like abortion really change that much, that fast?
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by Brian Peacock » Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:56 am
JimC wrote:Pro-life arguments are essentially emotional, tying normal human emotional responses to babies to an early foetus...
The emotions of the foetus are not nearly as persuasive as the emotions of so-called pro-lifers themselves.
As for 'pro-life' : there's seems to be an awful lot of crossover between those who are anti-abortion and those who are pro death penalty.
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by JimC » Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:08 pm
Brian Peacock wrote: ↑Wed Oct 21, 2020 8:56 am
JimC wrote:Pro-life arguments are essentially emotional, tying normal human emotional responses to babies to an early foetus...
The emotions of the foetus are not nearly as persuasive as the emotions of so-called pro-lifers themselves.
As for 'pro-life' : there's seems to be an awful lot of crossover between those who are anti-abortion and those who are pro death penalty.
I think that the emotions of the "pro-lifers" are powerful because they are tied to natural human emotions when interacting with babies, wilfully ignoring the profound biological differences between a newborn baby and an early foetus. Their campaigns seek to ignite the same emotional response that they themselves are feeling...
And yes, they can compartmentalise their sentimental ideology from other issues such as capital punishment...
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by laklak » Thu Oct 22, 2020 8:02 pm
It's wrapped up in Jebus, too. Only God can take a life and all that shit. Except for the death penalty, of course. And them terrerest Islams. Oh yeah, commie Chinee and antifas.
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by Tero » Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:10 am
Mississippi case on abortion being pushed to Supreme Court just in time for the new judge. She will be able approve banning abortion at 15 weeks.
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by Brian Peacock » Sat Oct 24, 2020 8:08 am
Time to retrain all those jobless as backstreet abortionists.
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by JimC » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:40 pm
It'll do wonders for the wire coat hanger trade, too...
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by laklak » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:43 pm
My advice, for what it's worth, is Wrap That Rascal. Better still, instead of giving into SATAN and FORNICATING like an ANIMAL, overcome your SINFUL NATURE and dedicate your life to CHRIST OUR LORD!
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by JimC » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:49 pm
laklak wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:43 pm
...giving into SATAN and FORNICATING like an ANIMAL...
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by laklak » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:50 pm
Do not give into the tight buttocked Beast Master!
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by Svartalf » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:18 pm
laklak wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:43 pm
My advice, for what it's worth, is Wrap That Rascal. Better still, instead of giving into SATAN and FORNICATING like an ANIMAL, overcome your SINFUL NATURE and dedicate your life to CHRIST OUR LORD!
JFCOAHD what has chretinism ever done for me that I should renounce my animal nature?
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by laklak » Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:23 pm
It will give you Life Everlasting, HALLELUJAH can I get an AMEN?
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by Brian Peacock » Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:02 pm
Sha-la-la-le-la-lu-la-la-le-la-la!
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by Svartalf » Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:10 am
laklak wrote: ↑Sat Oct 24, 2020 10:23 pm
It will give you Life Everlasting, HALLELUJAH can I get an AMEN?
Welcome to The Holy House of the Lord! Here's your rattlesnake.
You know, that snake handling stuff should be a fast lane to Darwin Awards, it's indeed a minor miracle that those sects don't envenom themselves into rapid extinction.
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