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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:12 pm

Brian Peacock wrote:
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What does the court consider damaging in Roe vs Wade?
That it's a godless ruling that actually empowers women to do what they like with their bodies?
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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:19 pm

Tero wrote:
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What does the court consider damaging in Roe vs Wade?
Lawyering. The constitution has limited human rights. Roe va Wade has a right that is not there.if you are legislating from the bench you are then making a rule that steps on state rights.
If the feds passed a law demanding all states allow abortion the court could say no. "You have to pass an amendment."

CNN Alito:
He said that while defenders of Roe point to the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment, they are mistaken.
That's because, according to Alito, while the Due Process Clause might guarantee some rights that aren't mentioned explicitly in Constitution, such rights have to be "deeply rooted in this nation's history and tradition."
"The right to abortion does not fall within this category," he said.
Err, I thought that 'due process' was only tied to judicial process?
and is Alito pulling a scalia and being all originalist ? I didn't remember he was that deep into it, or is that just a move of opportunity?
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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:24 pm

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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:26 pm

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Have to be "deeply rooted in this nation's history and traditions"!?

--these are supposed to be our best legal minds!

What a turd.
So, slavery and not letting women vote are well and truly protected...
Should white wome protest by doing a Lysistrata and fucking only blacks until a proper amendment is passed? would likely be the fastest one ever.
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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:29 pm

laklak wrote:
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Unfortunately, in our world, it does.
Nope, Roe v Wade was settled law, but it seems about to get unsettled, if not so already.
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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:31 pm

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The Satanic Temple plans to use the federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA) to ensure its members can still perform religious abortion rituals with Mifepristone and Misoprostol, even in states that completely ban abortion access. They will also possibly open religious abortion facilities. (reddit.com)
https://www.reddit.com/r/atheism/commen ... e_federal/
That serious? I mean, IIRC, the man is coming down hard on people who do drugs in a religious framework, so I don't guess they'd let religious abortion pass by... especially if the fetus is going to be offered up to Satan as a sacrifice.
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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Tero » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:33 pm

The due process is assumed to control states from being too restrictive on personal freedoms. The feds had few tools to controls states. At this point all the Southern states made laws and practices aimed at preventing people from voting. So it extended this due process to everyday things, not just criminal or other legal cases where a person would actually end up in court.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Due_Process_Clause

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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:46 pm

Tero wrote:
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It's no big deal! They can just put the babies up for adoption!
Alito's faulty logic analyzed:
Alito’s draft opinion also peddles the notion that “the costs of medical care associated with pregnancy are covered by insurance or government assistance.” Most of the states likely to ban abortion, should Roe be overturned, are the same states that have refused to expand Medicaid coverage. And even those families lucky enough to have employer-based health coverage can end up facing thousands in medical bills for childbirth: For a birth free of complications, a worker with employer-based insurance can expect to pay $4,500 on average in out-of-pocket costs.

I, for one, would love to live in the country that the draft opinion describes, where pregnancy is physically and economically safe, valued and supported. Unfortunately, we live in this one — where even a wanted pregnancy and birth can be among the most economically disruptive experiences most people can expect to face.

...Alito’s claim that pregnant workers have nothing to fear because federal and state laws ban pregnancy discrimination. His claim that workplace protections insulate pregnant employees from harm is particularly rich given the origins of the 1978 Pregnancy Discrimination Act, a rebuke to a 1976 Supreme Court decision, General Electric Co. v. Gilbert, which wrongly concluded that workers could be penalized for being pregnant.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... aid-leave/
Fuck that, A woman who goes through with a pregnancy has needed lots of costly medical watching over, and possibly care to boot, she also certainly suffered professionally, stuff that won't be made better once the child is adopted off.
There are good reasons why hiring a surrogate mother is so expensive, even if you go do it in a developing country where life is cheaper.
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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:48 pm

Tero wrote:
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Social commentary in Alito brief
alito babies.jpg
Is it just me or does that have a Swift's Modest Proposal flavor?
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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Svartalf » Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:50 pm

laklak wrote:
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Save your Confederate money, y'all, the South shall rise again!

Srsly. It's Balkanization time.
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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by JimC » Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:10 pm

...the good working order of our democratic processes and institutions should not depend upon the political persuasion of a democracy's elected officers and functionaries.
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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:19 am

Svartalf wrote:
Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:48 pm
Tero wrote:
Tue May 10, 2022 11:19 am
Social commentary in Alito brief
alito babies.jpg
Is it just me or does that have a Swift's Modest Proposal flavor?
Yes. It's appropriate that a dystopian ruling be couched in dystopian terms.

'We must ensure the domestic supply of infants for the homeland.' :nazi:

Who did not see that coming--the Federalist Society wunderkinder Kavanaugh, Barrett, and Gorsuch (all will likely be on the court for another 20 years at least) lied through their teeth about 'established precedent.' Only aggressively gullible stooges like Senator Collins believed them.

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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by L'Emmerdeur » Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:47 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
Wed Jun 15, 2022 8:58 am
... The Left will not and cannot maintain, let alone rehabilitate, democracy, as a fair, equitable, and inclusive means of securing the rights and interests of a diverse citizenry, by framing our discourse according to the narratives and terms of those who view democracy as their personal political plaything.

We need less Bane and more Paine.
I'm not sure that Paine would be taking the high road here. His forte was political polemics, however eloquent.

The Republicans have definitely politicized the judiciary, but they would retort that their efforts were necessary to counter ongoing politization by 'activist leftist judges.' They're better at effective messaging than the Democrats--the framing that you deplore cannot simply be dismissed.

In the US, the right has become increasingly comfortable with autocracy. Those like McConnell that are self-aware understand that it's their most effective route to power because they're in the minority. The majority of the population does not support their regressive agenda. That tendency toward autocracy needs to be called out and opposed.

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Re: The US Supreme Court

Post by Tero » Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:26 pm

Oxygen was not known in the time of the constitution, therefore CO2 cannot be regulated!*
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/20/politics ... index.html
Climate change
The justices unexpectedly also agreed to decide a case concerning the EPA's authority to regulate carbon emissions from existing power plants, in a dispute that could cripple the Biden administration's attempts to slash emissions.

*or they had not yet heard of it:
Priestley, however, called oxygen "dephlogisticated air", and did not recognize it as a chemical element. The name oxygen was coined in 1777 by Antoine Lavoisier, who first recognized oxygen as a chemical element and correctly characterized the role it plays in combustion.
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