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Post by Brian Peacock » Tue May 03, 2022 7:26 am

What does the court consider damaging in Roe vs Wade?
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Post by macdoc » Tue May 03, 2022 10:35 am

https://www.npr.org/2022/05/03/10960623 ... r-document

So if even a high percentage of woman in the US are impacted by this will it shift the election away from the Repuglies.

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Post by Tero » Tue May 03, 2022 10:47 am

Brian Peacock wrote:
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What does the court consider damaging in Roe vs Wade?
Lawyering. The constitution has limited human rights. Roe va Wade has a right that is not there.if you are legislating from the bench you are then making a rule that steps on state rights.
If the feds passed a law demanding all states allow abortion the court could say no. "You have to pass an amendment."

CNN Alito:
He said that while defenders of Roe point to the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment, they are mistaken.
That's because, according to Alito, while the Due Process Clause might guarantee some rights that aren't mentioned explicitly in Constitution, such rights have to be "deeply rooted in this nation's history and tradition."
"The right to abortion does not fall within this category," he said.
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Post by Tero » Tue May 03, 2022 12:04 pm

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Post by Sean Hayden » Tue May 03, 2022 1:23 pm

Have to be "deeply rooted in this nation's history and traditions"!?

--these are supposed to be our best legal minds!

What a turd.

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Post by Tero » Tue May 03, 2022 1:29 pm

Hanging witches is rooted in American history:
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Post by Sean Hayden » Tue May 03, 2022 1:38 pm

The language strikes me as manipulative to nth f'n degree.

It's not accidental that his concern for "history and tradition" is shared by the big money being spent to cement a particular version of both.

That this same money has been behind the recent additions to the court is a straight-up conspiracy.

I hope the roof falls in on them.

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Post by Tero » Tue May 03, 2022 2:03 pm

You should Tweet that. It's too many words for me to edit.
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Post by Tero » Tue May 03, 2022 4:10 pm

Back in the day:
In a majority opinion written by Justice Harry A. Blackmun, the Court held that a set of Texas statutes criminalizing abortion in most instances violated a woman’s constitutional right of privacy, which it found to be implicit in the liberty guarantee of the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment (“…nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”).

The constitution is big on federal powers. The rest are mostly left to states. Other than talking, shooting, seizures and quartering of soldiers.
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Post by rasetsu » Tue May 03, 2022 6:28 pm

Tero wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 10:47 am
Brian Peacock wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 7:26 am
What does the court consider damaging in Roe vs Wade?
Lawyering. The constitution has limited human rights. Roe va Wade has a right that is not there.if you are legislating from the bench you are then making a rule that steps on state rights.
If the feds passed a law demanding all states allow abortion the court could say no. "You have to pass an amendment."

CNN Alito:
He said that while defenders of Roe point to the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment, they are mistaken.
That's because, according to Alito, while the Due Process Clause might guarantee some rights that aren't mentioned explicitly in Constitution, such rights have to be "deeply rooted in this nation's history and tradition."
"The right to abortion does not fall within this category," he said.
It depends upon which right he's referring to here. Abortion, no. The right to privacy, though, does have such a history.

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Post by Tero » Tue May 03, 2022 7:16 pm

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The map higher above is not entirely correct for Wisconsin. There are these three clinics left for 5 million people. The law allows abortion to 21 weeks.
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Post by Sean Hayden » Wed May 04, 2022 1:29 am

Tero wrote:
Tue May 03, 2022 2:03 pm
You should Tweet that. It's too many words for me to edit.
It was a bit twittish. :oops:

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Post by Tero » Wed May 04, 2022 1:34 am

I condensed it. It's got...4 views. The whole abortion thing exploded with tens of thousands of tweets today.
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Post by laklak » Wed May 04, 2022 1:37 am

November 2022 is going to be really interesting. I'm glad we'll be in Mbabane.
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